Call me crazy, but we might have improved the pass rush after all

[Panthera onca]

Definitely a possibility.

[RJK]

Burns was not and never was the best player on defense 

[Jon Snow]

I think the defense will be better overall. But 1 or 2 injuries to the starting unit and that will change dramatically. I predict that some of the FA'S will be replaced by draft picks in the coming draft if they can find them. I think you can tell by the type of players Dan signed as to what he's looking for at those positions. We are just really thin outside of the starters on defense right now. 

[strato]

 Evero got some guys that he has time with. At worst it’s a quick patch. We’ll see but right now I don’t see his stock going down a ton even in a bad year. I expect him to have a good plan and be able to patch it the first couple three rocks he hits. Which is not easy to do.

When Wilks was a secondary coach he did more with less, I see Evero the same way as DC as of right now. I hope they don’t get pushed around (up front). 

I expect to miss Luvu the most. Probably. 

Edited June 28, 2024 by strato

[trucpfan]

53 minutes ago, Call Me James said:

It’s not an outrageous take. 
 

Our pass rush numbers could improve if our secondary just remains healthy.

Imagine if the secondary stays healthy and the new players are actually better at pass rushing we might be in for a nice surprise.

[pantherclaw]

We have 1 true starter, whomnwas never thenbest on any team he's ever been on, and the rest of the guys are rotational.  

 

That's not improved. 

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

We have 1 true starter, whomnwas never thenbest on any team he's ever been on, and the rest of the guys are rotational.  

 

That's not improved. 

Who was our other starter besides Burns last year? YGM?

[Captain Morgan]

thanks Iceage, good argument with strong supporting evidence.  I do now feel better about our D.  I like the "sum of the parts is greater than the whole" aspect.  I think we are now a more well-rounded D

[pantherclaw]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Who was our other starter besides Burns last year? YGM?

Once again, it's not improvement. Not on paper. In fact, it could end up being worse. 

Luckily Evro is pretty good at manufacturing a pass rush.  Won't mean poo if we are playing from behind all the time. 

[ForJimmy]

6 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Once again, it's not improvement. Not on paper. In fact, it could end up being worse. 

Luckily Evro is pretty good at manufacturing a pass rush.  Won't mean poo if we are playing from behind all the time. 

You are stating opinions like facts.  You can easily argue Clowney/Wonnum are better than Burns/YGM (I mean the OP actually does).  I think losing Luvu for Jewell could hurt the pass rush as Luvu was better than and Jewell was better at getting tackles.  Robinson and Brown at DE should again make life easier for our edges.  It's just a wait and see.  It's not like our pass rush was anything to brag about last year.  

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, RJK said:

Burns was not and never was the best player on defense 

[pantherclaw]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

You are stating opinions like facts.  You can easily argue Clowney/Wonnum are better than Burns/YGM (I mean the OP actually does).  I think losing Luvu for Jewell could hurt the pass rush as Luvu was better than and Jewell was better at getting tackles.  Robinson and Brown at DE should again make life easier for our edges.  It's just a wait and see.  It's not like our pass rush was anything to brag about last year.  

The only thing we have to go by this time of year is roster. 

You're talking about potential like it's facts. 

It's possible the pass rush is better.  On paper it isn't, I don't care how you spin it. 

It's also possible it gets worse. 

 

[PleaseCutStewart]

In all honesty, burns was just going through the motions most of the season. I don't think we will have that much drop off in the pass rush, especially if Evero can scheme clever blitzes.

Honestly, luvu is a bigger loss to our pass rush IMO 

Edited June 28, 2024 by PleaseCutStewart

[Ricky Prickles]

4 hours ago, Tomcatn said:

Who's we? 

Im guessing he means us as a fan base linked and drawn to our team that we support all in it together. Pretty common sense what he meant is it not?

Edited June 28, 2024 by Ricky Prickles