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2024 College Football Thread

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1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

He’s 19.  He’s very raw.

I get it but unlike say route running for a receiver, I think ball carrier vision is basically a pure natural talent. You either have it or you don't. I just don't think he has it. When he gets to the NFL where the whole defense on the other side is also freak athletes I just don't think he'll be effective.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I get it but unlike say route running for a receiver, I think ball carrier vision is basically a pure natural talent. You either have it or you don't. I just don't think he has it. When he gets to the NFL where the whole defense on the other side is also freak athletes I just don't think he'll be effective.

Yea he’s not an NFL back right now but it’s crazy watching these really gifted guys super Mario jump over future life insurance salesmen.

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

Summary of ND vs IU game IMO is found on the roster.  4/5 star athletes. 

ND: 58 of them 

IU: 10

Indiana just not ready.  Well coached team that still ain’t got the roster to really compete 

And yet, if they had better qb play, and maybe 2 better offensive linemen, the game would have been much closer.  The IU quarterback didn't have a lot of time to thrown, and when he did, he missed several open receivers.  Hit a few of those open receivers, get a little more time to throw, and the game is vastly different.  

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7 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

And yet, if they had better qb play, and maybe 2 better offensive linemen, the game would have been much closer.  The IU quarterback didn't have a lot of time to thrown, and when he did, he missed several open receivers.  Hit a few of those open receivers, get a little more time to throw, and the game is vastly different.  

Sure.  But the talent gap meant less time to throw, needing a couple better offensive lineman, having small windows….vs a Notre Dame team that really wasn’t even playing great. 

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11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's wild watching the media go crazy in the aftermath acting like we watched some great tragedy last night and Indiana/ND was the most lopsided game in college playoff history. It was literally two years ago when UGA beat the fug out out TCU 65-7 in the national championship game.

It doesn’t even rank in the top 3 of just BIG10 beatdowns in the college football playoff era. 

Mich St lost 38-0

Ohio State lost 31-0

Ohio St lost 52-24

and if you want to talk Notre Dame, they have been embarrassed way worse than IU was in the playoffs 

media went hard turn quick, now forced to go say maybe the ACC, BIG12 better than thought.  Nah, it’s just random hot takes after every game. 

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