Is it to early to revisit the Corral vs Malik Willis debate?

[micnificent28]

I am thrilled for the win and happy with Andy Dalton in the short term. But banking on a 36 year old QB of the future is fools gold. I'm still looking at potential franchise guys that we failed to identify. We passed on Willis a few times and even chose Corral over him in the 3rd. 

Yes his rookie season didn't look well coming out of liberty and needed time to develop and green bay got him on the cheap for what a 6-7th round pick? But he has already proven to be better than Corral easily.. and these past 2 games have been better than Bryce easily early into there careers.. can we discuss how we have failed to identify guys who are plus athletes and have the traits to be good vs. taking guys who are "football players" with less talent.

[kungfoodude]

Ah yes, the weekly "pining after a backup QB" post game thread.

What's the counter at? About 82 straight games?

[Mage]

Matt LaFleur is just that good of a head coach.  

[Ricky Spanish]

Willis was picked before Corral in the 3rd, the point is moot.

Also Willis is still a backup and looks good becuase their coach is good.

Also also, all we've drafted the past 3 or 4 years under Rhule and Fitterer were athletes who they thought they could "Coach up" and play. They sucked at coaching so the athletes never panned out. Bryce is seriously the only non RAS Beast we picked in that timeframe. Not sure where you got we were drafting "Football Players" because looking at our roster top to bottom the past few years you'll find very few of them.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Willis was picked before Corral in the 3rd, the point is moot.

Also Willis is still a backup. At least he's in the league though.

Just an all around weak QB class 2022 was.

It was billed as a very bad QB class and it lived up to it. 

[electro's horse]

Corral got hurt almost immediately so it’s really difficult to judge anything. He did look like pure ass in that one preseason game. 

He’s also a colossal asshole and it’s possible he’s one of those guys no one wants to deal with. Like Jeff George. 

[micnificent28]

Even in a bad QB class you can find useful pieces. Brock Purdy was a after thought. What I'm saying is we passed on Willis multiple times and yes he isn't setting the world on fire but does he look like a NFL qb vs say Corral who can't even get a starting job in the xfl or Canadian league.. yes. 

As good as Lefluer is as a coach you can't take away from a guy who kept his head down and did the work to improve and his physical talent to get it done with his arm and 74 yards rushing and a touchdown on the ground. That all Willis.

[Call Me James]

Willis had a good game. Can't take that from him.

[Ricky Spanish]

7 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Even in a bad QB class you can find useful pieces. Brock Purdy was a after thought. What I'm saying is we passed on Willis multiple times and yes he isn't setting the world on fire but does he look like a NFL qb vs say Corral who can't even get a starting job in the xfl or Canadian league.. yes. 

As good as Lefluer is as a coach you can't take away from a guy who kept his head down and did the work to improve and his physical talent to get it done with his arm and 74 yards rushing and a touchdown on the ground. That all Willis.

No Willis definitely played well and has been grinding and it shows. He deserves his flowers. He has shown more as a QB than anyone we've traded for or drafted in the past 8 years.

But he's still a backup and will be back on the bench once Love is healthy. It's a bit of an apples and oranges situation. We needed a good starting QB. We whiffed on getting one forever. Willis seems to be a solid backup QB. We don't need one of those.

To me his performance is irrelevant because he isn't the long term answer. You don't tend to kick yourself for missing on drafting a backup.

[NAS]

Who cares, he would have sucked with the Panthers.  Matt LaFleur does wonders

[Bear Hands]

Too early? Corral is out the league and Willis was gone when we picked. 

[csx]

18 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Even in a bad QB class you can find useful pieces. Brock Purdy was a after thought. No  and yes he isn't setting the world on fire but does he look like a NFL qb vs say Corral who can't even get a starting job in the xfl or Canadian league.. yes. 

As good as Lefluer is as a coach you can't take away from a guy who kept his head down and did the work to improve and his physical talent to get it done with his arm and 74 yards rushing and a touchdown on the ground. That all Willis.

No we didn't. We picked Ikem at 6 and didn't have a second..Corall was taken after Willis in the 3rd.

 

[csx]

23 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Even in a bad QB class you can find useful pieces. Brock Purdy was a after thought. What I'm saying is we passed on Willis multiple times and yes he isn't setting the world on fire but does he look like a NFL qb vs say Corral who can't even get a starting job in the xfl or Canadian league.. yes. 

As good as Lefluer is as a coach you can't take away from a guy who kept his head down and did the work to improve and his physical talent to get it done with his arm and 74 yards rushing and a touchdown on the ground. That all Willis.

No we passed on him once at 6 when we took Ikem. We didn't have a 2nd. He was taken before Corall in the 3rd.

[micnificent28]

1 minute ago, csx said:

No we passed on him once at 6 when we took Ikem. We didn't have a 2nd. He was taken before Corall in the 3rd.

fair enough. I'm not sure what was the deal with our second rounder that year. But if you wanted the guy you pass in the first for ickey which okay is fair.. if u wanted him in the second you could have gotten back into the second round and same as the 3rd round when a lot of pundents had him as a first round pick.