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NFL Games Week 4

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Jackie Lee Grand Master

Jackie Lee

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2 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

Kinda glad I only listened to about 1/4 of this game. 

What I did see/hear is Daniel Jones consistently under throwing WRs that were open down the field. 

Giants fans don't seem too pleased with Burns. Color me surprised lol. 

Yeah Burns not even over shooting the sacks really lol. Just getting shut down at the line except that one TFL

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They paid Burns like he’s a top end pass rusher.  In reality he’s always just been a good role player.  He had top end pass rusher potential, but how many seasons go by before you realize he is what he is?

You can’t build a team around that as your cornerstone.  But this is the same team that gave Daniel Jones the bag.

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Burns is honestly one of those DEs that will look great in PFF because he is pretty good at winning pass rushes, but then completely whiffs on actually sacking the QB. I don't know how many times he did that for us, even against QBs that were a complete statue.

Obviously would still like to have him, but super thrilled we didn't pay him a billion dollars like the gmen did

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My Giants fan buddy is getting frustrated by Burns' Jack of sacks. I'm told him not to worry, they'll come... when they're out of the playoff running and likely in games they're trailing by 2+ scores. That's when Burns shines brightest. Fighting for your playoff lives? He'll play every snap and not even show up in the boxscore.

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5 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

Kinda glad I only listened to about 1/4 of this game. 

What I did see/hear is Daniel Jones consistently under throwing WRs that were open down the field. 

Giants fans don't seem too pleased with Burns. Color me surprised lol. 

I noticed that in general in Sunday's games. These WRs are out running the arms. I hate to Bring Bryce up again but it is a reason I never really thought a fast downfield WR was going to help. 

I mean, they can outrun Dalton too but he can throw it pretty good. 

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