Stop Being Insane(remaining season primer)

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

Agree with everything but the best QB play since Cam in Pittsburgh. Are we forgetting the Kyle Allen era?

[DeAngelo Beason]

Priority #1 should be dumping Bryce Young and getting whatever we can for him.  We definitely need some draft capital.

[CBDellinger]

Agree with not being in a win now mode. Just sucks that next years draft is shaping up to be one of the worst in terms of players with 1st round grades. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Agree with everything but the best QB play since Cam in Pittsburgh. Are we forgetting the Kyle Allen era?

Oh I am definitely not forgetting that era. Re-watch that. It wasn't very good QB play.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Donald LaFell said:

Yeah the Bryce suck was boring. It’s funny how much of a difference there is between a 4-12 quality and 2-14 quality team. 

I think the biggest thing is the quality of the games being played. That matters a lot. 

Take the Bengals game, a little to the left or right(missed catches, missed tackles, missed calls) and we win that game by maybe that same 10 points

Heck, I think if AT was healthy we win. He wouldn't have dropped some of the passes the young guys were dropping. 

Versus basically needing the opposing team to poo the bed and our team play great to be competitive like last year.

[Gapanthersfan]

Healthy Thielen and we win by 10. We keep their o off the field for 5 fewer minutes and we don’t have nearly as many 3rd and longs. You could tell in Andy’s reads that he didn’t like what he saw. It ran clunky. Old panthers ish. Everything looked harder. 

Plus side is X now has the pressure of his first start behind him. Now it’s time to grow.

More I think of it, the more I like the idea of growing young talent under a Jedi master, building it up and then letting handing over to the hopefully future QB. We don’t need the blind leading the blind. 

So also this, do people have any idea how freaking fortunate this team is to have both Thielen and Dalton? Knowledge. You couldn’t get more fundamentally sound dudes. That’s who I want mentoring our young guys. 

[kungfoodude]

14 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Healthy Thielen and we win by 10. We keep their o off the field for 5 fewer minutes and we don’t have nearly as many 3rd and longs. You could tell in Andy’s reads that he didn’t like what he saw. It ran clunky. Old panthers ish. Everything looked harder. 

Plus side is X now has the pressure of his first start behind him. Now it’s time to grow.

More I think of it, the more I like the idea of growing young talent under a Jedi master, building it up and then letting handing over to the hopefully future QB. We don’t need the blind leading the blind. 

So also this, do people have any idea how freaking fortunate this team is to have both Thielen and Dalton? Knowledge. You couldn’t get more fundamentally sound dudes. That’s who I want mentoring our young guys. 

The talent with XL was very evident but so were the hurdles to him being an elite WR. He really needs to buckle down in the offseason and work like a madman on his ball skills. I am less concerned about his route running, needs some polish but his ball skills are below average for his age. 

If he can get those better over the next couple of seasons, he will be a legit #1 guy.

As you said, having experienced people around XL is fantastic. Hopefully we get another guy like that next year to help him out too.

[TarHeel69]

I fully agree with not getting into win now mode.  Develop and draft is definitely the way forward.  Was happy with Legette, even with his drops.  He will continue to improve.  Would like to see Mingo gone.  He's had every chance to succeed and he ain't it.  Hope he's gone at the end of the season, if not sooner.

[Gapanthersfan]

X needs to do whatever Chuba did to improve his pass catching. Dude REALLY put in work and it’ll prob bank him at least a couple more million come contract time. 

[shaqattaq]

5 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I really disliked the draft too but it just is what it is. Hopefully we get a couple of hits and then it won't matter about the misses. 

Look at a guy like Hubbard, for instance. He was skewered by this board as being "Rhule's wifes pick" and was a disaster as a rookie and second year player. But, he's now a competent starting caliber RB with much improved hands. He has been a hell of a pick in hindsight.

So maybe Wallace or Sanders end up being those players in 2-3 seasons. 

Even though I don't want to rush him back in (because this is a getting over past fuggups year), I'm anxious to see what Brooks can do behind this line. I'm a Hubbard fan, but he's a UFA next year and will want to cash in. Overpaying him will be yet another fuggup to get over!

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

Even though I don't want to rush him back in (because this is a getting over past fuggups year), I'm anxious to see what Brooks can do behind this line. I'm a Hubbard fan, but he's a UFA next year and will want to cash in. Overpaying him will be yet another fuggup to get over!

Yeah, ideally Brooks looks like the next man up and then Chuba can get his bag in free agency.

[PappyMay]

My preseason thought was 5-12 when i thought Bryce might be slightly better this season. I'm still sticking with that 5-12 now that we know Bryce sucks but Dalton has some juice left. Top 3-5 pick incoming. Hope we trade down to like 7-8 and get another early pick to keep building with Canales.

[CRA]

As long as we go down swinging and fighting....I'm fine just beating the Bears and like 2 more random games.  I just want XL, Mingo and Saunders to be given as much work as possible. 

[SOJA]

this is the post folks

I am so serious when I say we should not trade for anyone at the deadline. If we deal vets for draft picks totally fine but the posts on twitter saying we should trade for Hason Reddick and extend him are driving me insane