Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Prepare your mind for Bryce's return. Dalton is bad.


TD alt
 Share

Recommended Posts

18 hours ago, TD alt said:

I will listen to that, but you're not gonna tell me or at least intimate (like you have before), please, that the Derek Carr's of the world will ultimately lead us to where we want to go. There is some risk in getting on that retread treadmill. 

Yeah after cutting my teeth as a fan in the fox years I just want to give up and never draft a QB or TE like old times 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

How many times does Canales gotta come out after every game and reinforce his commitment to dalton for people to realize bryce is not his guy?? Lol

well, if Dalton continues as he has been the past couple weeks...Canales is going to keep getting asked about it.  How do you not ask if you are a reporter? 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, CRA said:

well, if Dalton continues as he has been the past couple weeks...Canales is going to keep getting asked about it.  How do you not ask if you are a reporter? 

Its not about the reporters asking, it's about the same answer he keeps giving and how he feels about bryce. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Its not about the reporters asking, it's about the same answer he keeps giving and how he feels about bryce. 

well, he is the dude the went into the season with Bryce #1.....and no legit talent or competition added to the roster.   He could of added a legit 3rd QB that could of pushed Dalton potentially out of the way if he wasn't a believer.   He opted not to. 

Reality is Bryce was worse under Canales than Frank.....and Canales had a substanially better setup than Frank.   and now Dalton is playing like Bryce despite again, being in a much better setup. 

Canales should be pressed IMO about the O.  I've said I'll give him a pass on the D and actually winning.  But this joke O falls on him to a large degree.   

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

30 minutes ago, CRA said:

well, he is the dude the went into the season with Bryce #1.....and no legit talent or competition added to the roster.   He could of added a legit 3rd QB that could of pushed Dalton potentially out of the way if he wasn't a believer.   He opted not to. 

Reality is Bryce was worse under Canales than Frank.....and Canales had a substanially better setup than Frank.   and now Dalton is playing like Bryce despite again, being in a much better setup. 

Canales should be pressed IMO about the O.  I've said I'll give him a pass on the D and actually winning.  But this joke O falls on him to a large degree.   

He is the dude that went into the season with Bryce as he no.1? So hold on a second...you HONESTLY think he had a choice in that? Wasnt him fixing bryce apart of him getting hired? Cmon...I know you are smarter than that. Furthermore,  what qb was on the market that could even beat out Andy dalton you put it that 3rd spot? Good qbs aren't sitting at home CRA.

Saying Bryce was better under Frank REALLY REALLY REALLY isn't saying much. And you are talking about over the course of 17 games. Over 50% of bryces stats came in garbage time or in the second half with hardly any points scored. It was no different under canales, that "incredible" green bay game didn't happen till towards the end of the season. We are coming up on the half way point to the season with Dalton as starter, we get moton and theilen back,  maybe Brooks plays...I dont think its set that Dalton is bryce level bad from hear on out. 

Far as Canales goes, yes he should take responsibility for the offense looking trash recently. And Dalton for the turnovers.... not gonna disagree on that.  My point is that there is a much worse scenario out there and he probably feels that would involve playing bryce. He doesn't want that. 

 

 

Edited by CPF4LIFE
  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, CPF4LIFE said:

He is the dude that went into the season with Bryce as he no.1? So hold on a second...you HONESTLY think he had a choice in that? Wasnt him fixing bryce apart of him getting hired? Cmon...I know you are smarter than that. Furthermore,  what qb was on the market that could even beat out Andy dalton you put it that 3rd spot? Good qbs aren't sitting at home CRA.

Saying Bryce was good under Frank REALLY REALLY REALLY isn't saying much. And you are talking about over the course of 17 games. Over 50% of bryces stats came in garbage time or in the second half with hardly any points scored. It was no different under canales, that "incredible" green bay game didn't happen till towards the end of the season. We are coming up on the half way point to the season with Dalton as starter, we get moton and theilen back,  maybe Brooks plays...I dont think its set that Dalton is bryce level bad from hear on out. 

Far as Canales goes, yes he should take responsibility for the offense looking trash recently. And Dalton for the turnovers.... not gonna disagree on that.  My point is that there is a much worse scenario out there and he probably feels that would involve playing bryce. He doesn't want that. 

 

 

I mean, most post addressed it.  he had a choice in bringing in some competition that could of challenged Andy Dalton for when the QB he didn't believe in failed.  He opted not to do that. 

He put little effort into fixing Bryce and it went horrific.  So let's assume he knew he would be benching Bryce.....well, he had opted not to add other QBs.  Who he could of been playing all preseason to take Dalton's 2 spot.  Then or now. 

I didn't say Bryce was good under Frank.  I said Bryce was better under Frank than Canales and that is saying something....given the HUUUGGGGEEEEE difference in talent around the QBs.  Specifically OL. 

I'm cool with him not playing Bryce.  I think once again, the plan for this season was complete dogwater.  And we are seeing that.  And I think Canales and Morgan both should be taking legit heat for it.  Especially given Bryce was sacked week 2 (which again, I am cool with that in a vaccum).   Not cool with their plan and now the results. 

we straight up wasting money too.  All that cash on the OL.  We ain't developing diddly.   Anywhere. 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

It looks like they went out and got the Young of HCs to pair with him. Even the Bucs are doing much better without him. The game yesterday was so poorly coached. It's time to burn it all down. One and done is becoming a viable and justifiable option. 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I like what Freeling brings to the table all around. If he is willing to put in the work he has an opportunity to be one of the better Tackles in the league down the line. Hunter Brazzell and Hecht are all premium additions but development from our staff are the key to unlocking them. Hopefully Lee and Wheatley will provide much needed additional depth to our secondary. Beyond that it's important not to get too caught up in draft grades. Many drafts over the years that turned out to be really good were not fawned over with praise. While some that were ended up being historical duds. Panthers fans ought to know this as well as anyone. In conclusion...
    • Maybe a bit of a homer take but I can't give us a grade lower than A.   Freeling was arguably the best LT prospect in the draft.  His athletic ability is off the chart and at 6'7" that can move.  It was a no brainer pick.   Hunter's key word is Violence. Putting him next to Brown should scare an offensive coordinator. These two give Scourton and Phillips plenty of chances to get one on one opportunities. Brazzell, another tall receiver with sprinter speed.  Our WR room is filled with tall talented WR.  Brazzell is going to give us a WR that can take to roof off the defense.  Basically Jimmy Horn with size. W. Lee III has a nickname of the Blanket. (heard this on the Beleav podcast with J. Stewart)  What a great name.  A great value in the 5th round. Hecht A strong, fast and extremely smart center. Many had him listed as the best center in the draft.  He's most likely a starter sooner than later. Wheatley A good safety in round 5.  Someone who could see playing time.   Kuwatch  I love this pick.  At minimum he will be a key piece on special teams and with some good coaching he'll see some packages where he'll play.  His down piece is he doesn't stay up in the running game.  Good coaching will fix this.  He reminds me a bit of A.J. Klein.   All these picks were great value.  I believe everyone of them were graded higher than the pick we took them.   Dan Morgan is IMO doing a great job turning this team into a good team with great depth.
    • Moton is a class act.  
×
×
  • Create New...