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We have to figure out our future core team

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kungfoodude Grand Master

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3 hours ago, TimeTravelerTep said:

I said it at the time and stand by it still, if Bryce was a bust (which I figured about an 80% chance of being one), we are looking at a minimum of 4, probably 5 years of having a 0% chance of even sniffing a playoff spot. So we are on year 2, so really at least 3 more years before it's time to start to talk about playoffs again. In other words, I wouldn't worry about making the playoffs until the Fall of 2028.

This is what people warn about when you get idiots like Tepper throwing out these insane trades because he just wants the first pick so badly. All these people cheer because they are excited at the time for that pick, but when reality hits them in the face with "don't even think about playoffs until 2028" you'll see them start crying. But that's the reality when you have an idiot like Tepper as owner. And the even harsher reality is if Tepper is still involved in 2028, there is 0% chance of a playoff spot no matter who our roster has. The Panthers are guaranteed not to play in a single playoff game if he is involved. I said this 3 years ago and ill stand by that 3 years from now. People will have to face reality.

I firmly believe we will not see a winning record before 2030. I am on record for that and have been trying to get various sportsbooks to give me odds on a five figure bet.

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This crew hasn't shown they have figured out who the core should be that's here now. I just hope the talk of keeping Chubba was all PR speak because him and Johnson are about the only 2 guys with value, both of those 2 should be walking at worst so why not. Those are not going to be core guys and this team needs to eat a bunch of bad contracts or they will be showing up with next with mostly the same mistakes. 

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My concern that I’ve brought up time and time again is that true alpha personalities intimidate the hell out of Tep and therefore, they have no place in this org. The fact that he dubbed Young of all people to be the figurehead of the team is very telling…. The biggest lamb to ever set foot in that locker room. QB1. C on his chest from day 1. Are you kidding me? 

Your core dudes aren’t lambs. Coaches who are capable of getting their ish show turned around aren’t lambs. They won’t accept being talked to any kind of way. They demand respect from everyone, even the owner. T hasn’t shown the capacity to respect anyone. He wants to tell people who have devoted their entire life to this sport what to do and how to do it. 

I seriously doubt we will be able to retain Horn. Dude has legit superbowl MVP potential and he knows it. Look at what he’s managed to do in THIS defense. Just imagine him with a real defensive coordinator and pass rush. He gone, bros. 

Chuba gone. This is his Shawshank. If he gets blackballed the rest of the season, he has shown some good stuff to warrant a good contract somewhere else. Johnson? lol. Thielen? Doubt it. Andy? Who knows. 

Fact is players probably straight up hate playing for T and until that changes, good luck bringing anyone, coaches or players, who can get this franchise truly back on track. 

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11 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I firmly believe we will not see a winning record before 2030. I am on record for that and have been trying to get various sportsbooks to give me odds on a five figure bet.

2030? Damn, do you have any idea how disappointing that will be if your prediction is true? My God that's like 5 seasons from now!

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Fwiw, I hope Tepper and Morgan take a look around the league and see that chasing qb's is generally stupid.  And I hope they learn some lessons.  

Big trades for established qb's can end up like the Cleveland Deshaun Watson or Jets Rodgers situations.  Cleveland especially gave up a lot and got nothing.  Jameis Winston is better now than Watson.

Tanking has never worked.  See Dolphins this year.

Trading up for a qb you want is very risky.  You give up to much and the odds of getting a great qb are slim.  It worked with Mahomes/KC, but it doesn't work often.

Best to draft whatever player comes to you and not make crazy trades to move up.  

 

 

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