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2 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

Retarded logic is trying to poo on every person who ventures to come on this board just trying to enjoy a win.

People like you have ruined this board, and you bask in that as this place has become more and more insufferable and less people engage.

Congrats- keep calling everyone retarded... Great discourse...

Lol you literally were just calling others miserable.   You be you.  

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Lol

His top 3 options in the passing game are rookies. Gotta learn to live in facts. As a young player himself playing with other young players I’m not sure what you expect from him. 
He made plays when he needed to and managed the game. That’s all you want from your young QB. 

 

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The number 1 job of a QB is to not lose the game  by making mistakes while feeding his players and scoring more points than the other guys by any means necessary. Bryce did what he needed to in order to win. He did his job. Was he great? No. But this team is going to run a lot and pass when necessary. No matter who is at quarterback.

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43 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

Other than Coker on 3rd down, where are all these bad misses??

The ball was on time and where it needed to be most of the time. Zero turnovers. Got a TD taken away for bs

I don't know why some people are still Panthers fans.

I get not thinking Bryce is the future.

Some of this hate is straight irrational and insufferable though... it just is.

I'm done again for the day.

It's insane Panthers fans happy about a win cant even post without being attacked by this nonsense

Okay  I’m on the same page as you. At first I didn’t understand where you were coming from until you admitted Bryce is not the future.

 

The problem with most of us is Tepper mortgaged the Panthers best players and tons of draft prospects for a QB that has a ceiling of a game manager. You don’t win Super Bowls with a game manager and you shouldn’t pick game managers 1st overall and give up multiple 1st round picks.

 

Brock Purdy was drafted 6th or 7th round.  Brock is more athletic, has a better arm and stands taller in the pocket to make better decisions. Conversely look at what we gave up for Bryce. 

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