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Davidson Deac II Grand Master

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19 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

y’all hung up stat lines like that tells the whole story. 

Agreed.  The yard total is irrelevant.  All that matters is that when he threw, he made more than he missed.  And he threw the ball down the field several times.  Not to many side/outlet passes.

I still don't think he is going to be the guy going forward, but it was nice to see some improvement that gives slight hope.  

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2 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

They should be okay with the playoffs but if they could choke such a gimme game away, who knows. Absolutely have to play better.

They'll make the playoffs but they're not contenders. Their OL is trash and the end result of that is that they have no running game and Stroud is constantly under pressure. 

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6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They'll make the playoffs but they're not contenders. Their OL is trash and the end result of that is that they have no running game and Stroud is constantly under pressure. 

Stroud is the second most sacked in the NFL so far. They are most likely not a serious contender for that reason. The last time you saw something like that was the Burrow run but the Texans and Stroud are not nearly as good as that Cincy offense.

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8 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Chuba Hubbard carried our offense today. It's the biggest cope of all time to be spiking the football over a 126 yard passing performance in an OT game. He had 32 yards after halftime. Bryce sucked today and we won despite that. The D stepped up and Chuba carried the load. That's the story today. 126 yards... LOL

i didn’t say BY was the greatest QB, i said he was outplaying the two in the late game. BY played well, but not great. he missed some throws, and had some good throws dropped. he made some good decisions, and not really any bad ones.

but if you want to cherry pick stats, ok, both QBs in the late game had multiple picks, 7 between them. BY had none. betterer, which is all i was claiming.

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11 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They'll make the playoffs but they're not contenders. Their OL is trash and the end result of that is that they have no running game and Stroud is constantly under pressure. 

Let's see what happens when Nico Collins comes back, he was leading the entire league in receiving before he got hurt. Their running game has been good as long as Mixon has been healthy, last night was really the first time it's been shut down and it was against a Lions team that's been good against the run and sold out to stop it.

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55 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

Let's see what happens when Nico Collins comes back, he was leading the entire league in receiving before he got hurt. Their running game has been good as long as Mixon has been healthy, last night was really the first time it's been shut down and it was against a Lions team that's been good against the run and sold out to stop it.

Unless they have OL injured that are going to return I'm not seeing a fix for their issues. It's the trenches.

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