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12/24/23

Doc Holiday

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That’s the last and only time Bryce has looked like the first over all pick, that’s the last and only time he’s looked like “Him”. 

This doesn’t mean I’m rooting against Bryce, just this celebration of Bryce after what I’d call a below average performance at best by any NFL starting QB is absolutely ridiculous. 
 

He needs to show more and do better if he wants a spot on this team next year. 

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5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Celebration? I must have missed that. 

Unfortunately, yea.  A lot of media talking heads are pushing that these last couple games is Bryce figuring it out and becoming an NFL QB.  It's ridiculous and I don't understand it, but it's there.

It's like all these things that are so carefully picked over when evaluating other QB's are just completely ignored when talking about BY9.  It's just beyond me.

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13 minutes ago, BrianS said:

Unfortunately, yea.  A lot of media talking heads are pushing that these last couple games is Bryce figuring it out and becoming an NFL QB.  It's ridiculous and I don't understand it, but it's there.

It's like all these things that are so carefully picked over when evaluating other QB's are just completely ignored when talking about BY9.  It's just beyond me.

So? It doesn't mean anything. I haven't seen any mention of a celebration. There's nothing to celebrate. Saying he played better than complete ass is not a celebration. It's still not good enough and everyone knows it. The media will not come out and say that so they exaggerated it. Just like everything gets exaggerated here.

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7 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

KC will be telling. 

Telling? The Panthers are going to get curb stomped. The Chiefs have arguably the best defense in the league. Yeah our 30th ranked offense is really going to light them up. Young may not break 100 yards. 

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Look I'm glad he's improving but yeah it's incredibly obvious just how low the bar was set by his play last year and before the benching this year because even in these 2 wins he flat out has not even been an average QB and the team won in spite of him against bad teams.

I think what Bryce defenders (can't believe there are any at this point) don't understand is nearly every single Panthers fan would love for the dude to turn it around and be a franchise QB who can lead this team to a SB win. The reality for everyone with eyes and brain watching though is he's not the guy, is nowhere even remotely close to being the guy and wasting any more time on trying to make him the guy will set this team back even further.

With Dalton hurt of course we had to go back to Bryce but I'm pretty damn confident in saying he's not in our future plans and won't be barring a miracle true turn around in his level of play. Even like 5-6 more wins the rest of the season wouldn't do it unless he balls out in them -- which, color me skeptical.

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8 minutes ago, NAS said:

I may be in minority but he looks better now in the pocket than any time last year.  I think the yards are coming especially when Thielen comes back. 

We had the worst passing offense in the league last year forcing the ball to AT for him to reach 1k yards.

You make it sound like Bryce is middle of the pack in passing yards which almost everyone here would be fine with. But in reality he is at the very bottom. I mean the very bottom.

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Just now, frankw said:

We had the worst passing offense in the league last year forcing the ball to AT for him to reach 1k yards.

You make it sound like Bryce is middle of the pack in passing yards which almost everyone here would be fine with. But in reality he is at the very bottom. I mean the very bottom.

No, just acknowledging he is on a run heavy offense, throwing to rookies who are developing but not exactly a recipe for a ton of productivity. Yet what i see as positives is actual pocket presence last 3 games, willingness and ability to stay and go through progressions, take shots downfield. He has a long ways to go but i see those as positive steps to hopefully more accelerated growth. Let’s see how they finish the year

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23 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Telling? The Panthers are going to get curb stomped. The Chiefs have arguably the best defense in the league. Yeah our 30th ranked offense is really going to light them up. Young may not break 100 yards. 

Hey I didn’t say it would be good telling just that it would be telling…That Bryce sucks and will never be a franchise QB. 

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27 minutes ago, NAS said:

No, just acknowledging he is on a run heavy offense, throwing to rookies who are developing but not exactly a recipe for a ton of productivity. Yet what i see as positives is actual pocket presence last 3 games, willingness and ability to stay and go through progressions, take shots downfield. He has a long ways to go but i see those as positive steps to hopefully more accelerated growth. Let’s see how they finish the year

I think Herbert's yards are down this year because Harbaugh is a run first guy. They were talking about it this morning on GMFB as the case with several qb's this season. It is a factor. But Young will need to get to league average in YPG if he hopes to have a shot.

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