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Currently at pick #4

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Here's the best realistic case scenario for the rest of the season.......

Giants lose out, Raiders beat Jags, Titans beat Jags, Jags beat Colts, Browns beat Dolphins in Cleveland.

Even if we sneak out one more win, if the above all plays out, we still could be picking as high as 4th depending on SOS of us, Jags, Titans (Browns will be too high of an SOS to be in the mix there with us all having 4 wins).

But if we also then lose out and the above happens (except if we do, Browns don't have to win again), we're then most likely picking 3rd after the Giants and Patriots (unless the Patriots beat the Bills in Week 18 and we move up to 2nd, which could happen if the Bills have nothing to play for and rest everyone).

The key though in all of that is that the Raiders are then picking 4th behind us.

Giants take a QB, Patriots hopefully fall in love with Hunter and take him, and we're able to bluff the Raiders into us trading the pick to someone else, we get their 2026 1st (and maybe more) to swap picks with them and we get to take the same player we'd have taken at #3 but get great additional draft capital at the same time.

If Deion won't let us draft Hunter, then I want the above all to happen and then the Bills rest everyone and the Patriots beat them.  That way it's Giants, Panthers, Raiders, Patriots and we don't have to worry about the Raiders making the trade with the Patriots at #2, as I'd love to be able to swap back one pick to get draft assets for free and still get the player we want.

But I'd rather the Patriots be there to take Hunter if Deion doesn't tell us no, because I'm so much against drafting him that I want him off the board when we're picking, I think he's going to be a huge locker room problem in the NFL and be more like an Antonio Brown in a few years and pure locker room cancer.

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16 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

It's weird Sanders is making videos about Vegas and NY as if he's sending a message these are the 2 teams he would play for.

 

Going to be interesting to see who tanks the most down the stretch. Either way I think he has guaranteed himself to be the #1 pick. I think Ward goes to the team who misses on Sanders.

 

That leaves New England/Jacksonville/Tennessee/Cleveland/Carolina battling it out for the Hunter sweepstakes at #3.

 

I'm 100% positive the first 3 picks will be Sanders/Ward/Hunter. After that the draft starts.

That you still can't or refuse to see the fact that Shedeur doing things like that is a red flag, is pathetic.

I can't ever remember a player trying to force their way to a specific team (or two) in the NFL draft.

And no, Eli doesn't count, as the Manning family made it very clear at the start that they weren't trying to get to the Giants or anywhere else specifically, it was that they refused to let him play for the Chargers as their ownership and never shown being serious about winning.

I want no part of any player Deion has a hand in.

If we were a great franchise, with a ton of locker room leaders, strong front office and coaching staff, all of that, then it's not as big of a problem or risk to take one of these two guys.  

But we don't have any of that, you put those players into this franchise right now, and it's going to be a problem.  If you draft one of them and that ends up being the case then we can forget about winning anytime soon.  You take a team as struggling as much as we are and you create that type of locker room problem, it's going to get so much worse than just missing on a pick.

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12 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

That you still can't or refuse to see the fact that Shedeur doing things like that is a red flag, is pathetic.

I can't ever remember a player trying to force their way to a specific team (or two) in the NFL draft.

And no, Eli doesn't count, as the Manning family made it very clear at the start that they weren't trying to get to the Giants or anywhere else specifically, it was that they refused to let him play for the Chargers as their ownership and never shown being serious about winning.

I want no part of any player Deion has a hand in.

If we were a great franchise, with a ton of locker room leaders, strong front office and coaching staff, all of that, then it's not as big of a problem or risk to take one of these two guys.  

But we don't have any of that, you put those players into this franchise right now, and it's going to be a problem.  If you draft one of them and that ends up being the case then we can forget about winning anytime soon.  You take a team as struggling as much as we are and you create that type of locker room problem, it's going to get so much worse than just missing on a pick.

You good bro?

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5 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

Trade down & stack defense. QB, WR & CB are all luxury picks. This only leads to losing franchises that must rebuild.

Tired of luxury picks like Horn, Ekwonu, Young, and XL. We need core picks to build a winning franchise.

 

I just said this in another thread and it's still not a pro T-Mac post here either.

But if XL and Coker are your Top 2 WRs heading into next year, that is a bottom 5 WR room in the NFL.

In what way is WR a luxury pick right now?  

Outside of an elite edge rusher (and the QB situation), a true #1 WR is the biggest hole on our team at the moment and until it's filled, we'll struggle to pass the ball.

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14 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I'm fine, I just want us to draft with our head's for once and not the media darling of the year.  

Can you breath with Deion's nuts so far down your throat?

I noticed New England has the second strongest scheduled left.  Is that already computed\included in SOS by talkathon?

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1 minute ago, fanpanther said:

Just was reading the comments yeah not sure why he getting all the hate.  I think he is going to be amazing in the nfl. 

Because we don't see it with him, we see a system that was built for him to put up big stats like his dad intended to do, and we see a player with serious red flags outside of his actual on field abilities as well.

Even if you think he will make it in the NFL, coming to a franchise as much of a mess as we are, is not how a player like him will succeed at the next level, it's only going to create problems.

The Deion show is going to be wild in the NFL, our franchise isn't in a state to handle it properly (and that's ignoring that many don't see him as an elite prospect at the same time).

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18 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I'm fine, I just want us to draft with our head's for once and not the media darling of the year.  

Can you breath with Deion's nuts so far down your throat?

I mean you're the one who's been venting about how much you hate Hunter and the Sanders family. I think we get it. No need to keep repeating yourself every post in every thread.

 

Here's a beer on me buddy.

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