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Hot Take: This team will never get over the hump, until we move on from Bryce.


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Bottom line: If Morgan and Canales know what they are doing, the Panthers will be fine. If not, they won't be fine. That simple. If they know what they are doing, they will draft enough talent and sign enough FA to be very good. Green Bay is 11-4 and Minnesota is 13-2. Nether have elite QBs. What they apparently do have is a coach and a GM who know what they are doing.

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13 minutes ago, Hogan said:

Bottom line: If Morgan and Canales know what they are doing, the Panthers will be fine. If not, they won't be fine. That simple. If they know what they are doing, they will draft enough talent and sign enough FA to be very good. Green Bay is 11-4 and Minnesota is 13-2. Nether have elite QBs. What they apparently do have is a coach and a GM who know what they are doing.

Jordan Love is absolutely an elite qb, and Sam darnold was the best panthers qb of the past six years. 

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26 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Jordan Love is absolutely an elite qb, and Sam darnold was the best panthers qb of the past six years. 

NO ONE knows how ANY college QB will do in the NFL. If you have a track record of saying before the draft who will be the best QB, then you need to quit whatever job you have and get an NFL gig. 

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I'm sold on one more year of Bryce especially since next year's quarterback prospects don't exactly excite me.

Long term? That debate is still ongoing.

Yeah I think they will build the defense this year and bring in a backup qb with some experience to push Bryce. And if Bryce struggles next year, that will be all she wrote 

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Bryce isn't it but neither will the next mistake be it. Same with coaching and team management. The entire package is trash, not just the bad QB with so little upside. Love replaced DC after all that fluff and it looks like an easy upgrade for them. One game left and they still have 80 more points than last year on O. The oline improved but there is still so little talent they brought in elsewhere. A freaking UDFA was their best rookie where meh is an achievement apparently.

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