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Mayfield and Darnold are playing great ball and have been consistently good all year. Bryce on the other hand didn’t really start putting it together until 7 games ago.

If you average out his stats over the past 7 games you’d have a QB that is on pace for 29 total TD’s over a 17 game season. That’s fringe top 10 QB play.

Who know’s if Bryce has completely turned the corner but he’s playing much better than his season stats suggest. 12 total TD’s to 4 total turnovers over the past 7 games isn’t bad. Just for comparisons sake, Jordan Love is at 11 total TD’s to 1 total turnover over his past 7 games. Pretty similar stats with the main difference being the Packers have a really good defense and head coach.

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I don't think I'll ever get past all the finger sacks and tackles whenever a d-line guy can get a scratch at him. It's crazy we're basically 5 years into going full circle on Teddy B level as our QB lol. Speaking of it's looking like Sam, Baker, and Teddy now with the Lions as the new backup are going to be in the playoffs!!! Can't make this poo up. 

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7 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

 

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Don't even try this revisionist history slop.

Sam Darnold showed more flashes than Baker Mayfield here but both were hot and cold at best and had some truly horrendous turnover filled games all circumstances aside. To act like it was only a few people who criticized them is ridiculous.

Furthermore you joined a whole 4 months ago. You and I both know you've been here before that so what was your last account so we can dig up your takes on Sam and Baker? Don't hide now you opened this can of worms.

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24 minutes ago, frankw said:

Don't even try this revisionist history slop.

Sam Darnold showed more flashes than Baker Mayfield here but both were hot and cold at best and had some truly horrendous turnover filled games all circumstances aside. To act like it was only a few people who criticized them is ridiculous.

Furthermore you joined a whole 4 months ago. You and I both know you've been here before that so what was your last account so we can dig up your takes on Sam and Baker? Don't hide now you opened this can of worms.

Google makes things pretty easy to find. And I’m simply presenting what was said. If you have an issue with that, perhaps you shouldn’t have said it. 

For my opinion. I still don’t think Mayfield is that good — like many, he puts up his best stats against all-time weak defenses. Darnold was alright here and I was fine with keeping him in a backup role. 

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8 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

Well, these comments sound familiar. 

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I mean, Sam Darnold did dumb things.  And he would do them often after doing good things.  Sometimes awesome things.   Most of his career.  Think a lot of that has to do w/ not having good coaching or with a good org (Jets/Panthers).  

Just seems like they have figured out how to remove the dumb.  Sam Darnold as most have always said, was a super physically talented football player.  He potentially could of pursued other positions he had so much talent. Which we don't have right now.  The Darnold and Young critiques don't run that similar.  Most of Sam's critiques were about his decision making.  Most of Youngs are about his physical tools.  Basically polar opposites that simply have being criticized in common. 

 

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