Early NFL offseason chatter

[LinvilleGorge]

30 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

Oh, that mistake made by the Browns just got even worse. 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/deshaun-watson-could-miss-all-of-2025-after-rupturing-his-achilles-again

And let's not forget this could've easily been us. Tepper wanted him. People on this board wanted him. At least the choices we eventually made is bearing some fruit. 

They are so fuged. They have to just try to reach an injury settlement with him and move on.

I can't ever recall a QB falling off such a cliff in his prime without a serious injury being involved. Obviously he's dealing with serious injuries now, but he fell completely off the cliff when he was still healthy.

[mav1234]

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They are so fuged. They have to just try to reach an injury settlement with him and move on.

I can't ever recall a QB falling off such a cliff in his prime without a serious injury being involved. Obviously he's dealing with serious injuries now, but he fell completely off the cliff when he was still healthy.

Football is a game that requires peak physical and mental condition (mental in terms of football, obviously not sanity lol) and being away from the game so long clearly impacted him.

fug him, though. Glad Tepper didn't get his way, christ. The best decision Tepper's made was not being willing to guarantee that salary.

[Khyber53]

19 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They are so fuged. They have to just try to reach an injury settlement with him and move on.

I can't ever recall a QB falling off such a cliff in his prime without a serious injury being involved. Obviously he's dealing with serious injuries now, but he fell completely off the cliff when he was still healthy.

Deshaun Watson most likely will only be in Canton as a day-pass guest or as an event attendee, but he did successfully pull off one of the flea flicker plays of all time, at least when it came to contracts. He simultaneously soaked Houston and then managed to get traded to the Browns for a massive haul not just for the Texans but for his own bank account, netting both one of the largest trade values of all time AND one of the most overpaid, fully guaranteed contracts of all times.

I'd say he gave it all up for a few after massage tugs, but let's be honest, he hasn't had to give up anything except some on the field time. And considering how he has played, that was probably in his interest, too.

Like I said back then when folks were praying we would land him, sometimes the biggest blessings are the ones you don't get.

[bythenbrs]

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Deshaun Watson had Achilles surgery. I wonder if Cleveland feels like they got their money's worth out of that deal?

Cleveland area massage therapists probably did…

[Basbear]

3 hours ago, outlaw4 said:

Oh, that mistake made by the Browns just got even worse. 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/deshaun-watson-could-miss-all-of-2025-after-rupturing-his-achilles-again

And let's not forget this could've easily been us. Tepper wanted him. People on this board wanted him. At least the choices we eventually made is bearing some fruit. 

 

[tukafan21]

21 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is that dipsh-t everybody makes fun of on McAfee's show, right?

The story of Glenn declining the Patriots interview seems to be legit but I'm not so sure I'd count on this guy's speculation.

To me it more means Glenn knows he's getting a different job already, like New Orleans.

[tukafan21]

4 hours ago, outlaw4 said:

Oh, that mistake made by the Browns just got even worse. 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/deshaun-watson-could-miss-all-of-2025-after-rupturing-his-achilles-again

And let's not forget this could've easily been us. Tepper wanted him. People on this board wanted him. At least the choices we eventually made is bearing some fruit. 

I can't tell if this means the Browns are going to draft a QB #2 now, or if they're going to use this as a chance to just blow it all up and trade the pick to the Giants or Raiders.

Can see both sides of it, this is their chance to get a new QB, or they realize they're going to be in cap hell for a couple years because of the dead hits from Watson and just go full on re-build mode for a year or two and hope for the #1 pick next year in a better QB draft.

[Basbear]

2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I can't tell if this means the Browns are going to draft a QB #2 now, or if they're going to use this as a chance to just blow it all up and trade the pick to the Giants or Raiders.

Can see both sides of it, this is their chance to get a new QB, or they realize they're going to be in cap hell for a couple years because of the dead hits from Watson and just go full on re-build mode for a year or two and hope for the #1 pick next year in a better QB draft.

 

keep up with the tmac prayers, Im seeing him drop in on a few boards.

[tukafan21]

41 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

keep up with the tmac prayers, Im seeing him drop in on a few boards.

I might be a Panthers fan because of Biakabutuka, but if we end up getting T-Mac, might have to change my name to TMacFan4 lol

Edited January 10 by tukafan21

[ProcessBlue2]

7 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They are so fuged. They have to just try to reach an injury settlement with him and move on.

I can't ever recall a QB falling off such a cliff in his prime without a serious injury being involved. Obviously he's dealing with serious injuries now, but he fell completely off the cliff when he was still healthy.

Makes you think more of O'Brien

[Hoenheim]

Pats are gonna hire Vrabel like everyone's been saying lately.  

I find it interesting that their first two hc hires after Bellichick were two former players from their dynasty Era. 

 

Edited January 12 by Hoenheim

[Hoenheim]

[Mr. Scot]

Yep. Vrabel is official. Saw speculation he might try to get Josh McDaniels back as his OC.

Rumors also have talk of Ben Johnson to the Raiders "heating up". Tom Brady is said to be practically begging him to take the job.

[Mr. Scot]

On 1/10/2025 at 1:09 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

They are so fuged. They have to just try to reach an injury settlement with him and move on.

I can't ever recall a QB falling off such a cliff in his prime without a serious injury being involved. Obviously he's dealing with serious injuries now, but he fell completely off the cliff when he was still healthy.

I remember the debates on here over the Watson pursuit.

Oy