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Mr. Scot

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Just now, travisura said:

Bears Lucky Enough to Get Generational QB Like Caleb Williams - SI

Generational? Longtime NFL Evaluator Believes Caleb Williams is an All-Time Great Prospect - PFN

Colin Cowherd says Caleb Williams is a generational NFL draft talent - Yahoo

 

It's been said quite a bit.

There was also a slew of "Williams is not a generational talent" stories too, and a lot of it apparently had to do with his floor.

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2 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

There was also a slew of "Williams is not a generational talent" stories too, and a lot of it apparently had to do with his floor.

But the framing of those arguments are that it was a given that he was widely considered generational, and they're pushing back on that.

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39 minutes ago, travisura said:

But the framing of those arguments are that it was a given that he was widely considered generational, and they're pushing back on that.

I don't think he was considered by many in the same class as Luck and Lawrence... But I could be wrong.

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Title: Ranking NFL Draft's top 20 QB prospects since 2000: Where does Caleb Williams land?

Link: https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/ranking-nfl-drafts-top-20-qb-prospects-since-2000-where-does-caleb-williams-land

Caleb #6 on this list

 

Title: Ranking the 5 best NFL Draft QB Prospects of the Last 15 years

Link: https://www.givemesport.com/best-nfl-draft-qb-prospects-last-15-years/

Caleb #3 on this list.

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2 hours ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Title: Ranking NFL Draft's top 20 QB prospects since 2000: Where does Caleb Williams land?

Link: https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/ranking-nfl-drafts-top-20-qb-prospects-since-2000-where-does-caleb-williams-land

Caleb #6 on this list

 

Title: Ranking the 5 best NFL Draft QB Prospects of the Last 15 years

Link: https://www.givemesport.com/best-nfl-draft-qb-prospects-last-15-years/

Caleb #3 on this list.

Ranked above Cam Newton, who's at #5 🤔

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Not sure how Caleb was labeled back then has much relevance in the now. What I see was a QB that got sacked 68 times and whether how much of that was on him versus the protection, if Ben Johnson and company doesn't find a way to address that, whatever they try to do is likely not going to work.

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5 hours ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Title: Ranking NFL Draft's top 20 QB prospects since 2000: Where does Caleb Williams land?

Link: https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/ranking-nfl-drafts-top-20-qb-prospects-since-2000-where-does-caleb-williams-land

Caleb #6 on this list

 

Title: Ranking the 5 best NFL Draft QB Prospects of the Last 15 years

Link: https://www.givemesport.com/best-nfl-draft-qb-prospects-last-15-years/

Caleb #3 on this list.

The second list seems legit. Caleb was considered a very good prospect, don't get me wrong. But no, not at Luck's level and not on Lawrence's level. A step below those guys. The first list is embarrassingly laughable with late 1st round picks included because they turned out to be great QBs. Obviously they weren't considered elite QBs going into the draft hence why they were drafted when they were.

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The second list seems legit. Caleb was considered a very good prospect, don't get me wrong. But no, not at Luck's level and not on Lawrence's level. A step below those guys. The first list is embarrassingly laughable with late 1st round picks included because they turned out to be great QBs. Obviously they weren't considered elite QBs going into the draft hence why they were drafted when they were.

If you read it he explains the list is his pre draft grades. 

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