Black Monday Comes Early in New England

[PadresPanthersFan]

51 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Calling it now, they are going to be the ones to land Ben Johnson.

I'd bet Jax gets him. Once Pedersen gets fired Johnson will have Thomas, Etienne and Lawrence to work with

[Mr. Scot]

55 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Calling it now, they are going to be the ones to land Ben Johnson.

I think you're gonna miss on that one because they seem to want Vrabel.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, PadresPanthersFan said:

I'd bet Jax gets him. Once Pedersen gets fired Johnson will have Thomas, Etienne and Lawrence to work with

I will make another bet. Johnson will stay in Detroit.

[Aussie Tank]

Add him to the Wilks and Flores lawsuit 

[NYPantherFan]

Vrabel and Josh McDaniels as OC

[ProcessBlue2]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think you're gonna miss on that one because they seem to want Vrabel.

I have zero science other than I had a 0.7 second premonition of him talking to Drake Maye on the sideline with Pats gear on.

[fanpanther]

Seems like he was fired bc they won today and missed out on the first overall pic.  Wonder if he was told to loose and refused.   

[ProcessBlue2]

12 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Add him to the Wilks and Flores lawsuit 

Add Evero when Dave throws his poo into Mint St.

[ProcessBlue2]

2 minutes ago, fanpanther said:

Seems like he was fired bc they won today and missed out on the first overall pic.  Wonder if he was told to loose and refused.   

I don't think so. The team was complete ass and unmotivated all season.

I watched 3 Pats games this year for betting purposes. They checked out after the first 1-2 series everytime.

Edited January 6 by ProcessBlue2

[tukafan21]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I will make another bet. Johnson will stay in Detroit.

I think it's going to be hard for him to turn down the chance to have Maye or Lawrence as his QB, but I absolutely could see him looking ahead and hoping whoever gets the #1 pick next year also fires their HC and he can get Manning.

I'd think he'd want Caleb too, but not sure he wants to deal with the Bears organization in such a tough division.  

Edited January 6 by tukafan21

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I think it's going to be hard for him to turn down the chance to have Maye or Lawrence as his QB, but I absolutely could see him looking ahead and hoping whoever gets the #1 pick next year also fires their HC and he can get Manning.

I'd think he'd want Caleb too, but not sure he wants to deal with the Bears organization in such a tough division.  

Both of those situations are with dumpster fire organizations. Same reason he didn't come here.

[tukafan21]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Both of those situations are with dumpster fire organizations. Same reason he didn't come here.

I assume you mean Bears and Jags, as the Patriots are anything but that.

The Jags have a lot of great offensive weapons though, far better than what we were offering up the last 2 years when we were hiring coaches.  I think when you look at Lawrence, Thomas, Etienne, and Bigsby, that situation would look mighty appealing to someone like Johnson who would look at that as his Goff, St Brown, Gibbs, Montgomery to work with.

Then combine it with their currently weak division and I think it's actually a pretty good opening for a good offensive coach to step into and do well in right away.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I assume you mean Bears and Jags, as the Patriots are anything but that.

The Jags have a lot of great offensive weapons though, far better than what we were offering up the last 2 years when we were hiring coaches.  I think when you look at Lawrence, Thomas, Etienne, and Bigsby, that situation would look mighty appealing to someone like Johnson who would look at that as his Goff, St Brown, Gibbs, Montgomery to work with.

Then combine it with their currently weak division and I think it's actually a pretty good opening for a good offensive coach to step into and do well in right away.

No, I mean the Pats and Jags. The Pats are indeed a dumpster fire. That's the second least talented roster in the NFL and it's been years of work getting it there. Make no mistake, that organization is bad.

[tukafan21]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

No, I mean the Pats and Jags. The Pats are indeed a dumpster fire. That's the second least talented roster in the NFL and it's been years of work getting it there. Make no mistake, that organization is bad.

Having a bad roster is not having a dumpster fire of an organization.  Yes of course Brady/BB had the most to do with it, but they still have 6 SB's and not too far removed from them.  They have/had trouble getting out of the BB regime, which isn't abnormal given how much he had control there, but I wouldn't put them in the same category as many of the poorly run franchises.

They also have a ton of cap room and a really good looking rookie QB.