[Joe Person] Jonathon Brooks had a successful 2nd ACL surgery - Expected to miss all of 2025 Season

[Icege]

11 hours ago, The Huddler said:

what a fugin bummer.  especially considering how good he looked.  maybe after a much improved 2025 season he will be the cherry on top heading into 2026 making a considerable playoff push

Yea man, he definitely looked like he belonged in limited action. Smooth athlete with solid vision... sucks to have the setback that he had.

Fully expecting him to start on PUP and then depending on the possibility of a postseason either shut him down until next season or work him back in so that there's fresh legs if needed.

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 hour ago, TD alt said:

He doesn't need to play in 2025. And maybe not 2026 either from what I've read. 

Well if that's the case his career's essentially over.  An average player is going to have a hard time taking 2 years off.  A superstar would.

[frankw]

1 hour ago, TD alt said:

He doesn't need to play in 2025. And maybe not 2026 either from what I've read. This is but one peer-reviewed selection:

 

 "A devastating complication of returning to sport following ACL reconstruction (ACLR) is a second ACL injury. Strong evidence now indicates that younger, more active athletes are at particularly high risk for a second ACL injury and this risk is greatest within the first two years following ACLR."

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5226931/

 

 

Regarding your first question...

"The optimal timing of ACLR is an important clinical decision that affects patient outcomes significantly. Even though there is no consensus in the literature, there are some trends regarding timing of ACLR. Various authors suggest that ACLR be performed at least 3 weeks after injury in order to avoid arthrofibrosis. More important than time alone, objective criteria including perioperative swelling, edema, hyperthermia, and ROM are important indicators of when surgery should be performed."

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4004131/#:~:text=The optimal timing of ACLR is an important clinical decision,in order to avoid arthrofibrosis.

 

All this tells me is Dan Morgan made an absurdly foolish gamble.

RB is plug and play. No player at any position can miss the first three years of their career and hope to still have one.

I mean I'm not trying to be abrasive here but it is mind numbing that we've put ourselves in this position when all we had to do was take a flier on a running back in the mid rounds like the majority of the rest of the NFL does. But Dan Morgan similarly to the mindset of Scott Fitterer had to go and think he was the smartest guy in the room. But the Cowboys wanted him! Hey the Cowboys also wanted Jonathan Mingo. Big whoop.

[countryboi]

We need a treat Brooks like he doesn’t exist and move on and if he comes back and plays well, that’s a bonus
 

I’m getting some real Biakabutuka vibes.

[TD alt]

1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Well if that's the case his career's essentially over.  An average player is going to have a hard time taking 2 years off.  A superstar would.

Well, Thomas Davis...

But, yeah, when I was reading all that, I couldn't help but think to myself, "This may end in an injury settlement."

[PNW_PantherMan]

2 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Well, Thomas Davis...

But, yeah, when I was reading all that, I couldn't help but think to myself, "This may end in an injury settlement."

It's possible.  But if he misses the next 2 years, that means he's basically been out of football for 3 years.  At that point, if he made a comeback, it's likely to be on a minimum deal with another team.

Edited January 22 by PNW_PantherMan

[pantherclaw]

7 hours ago, frankw said:

All this tells me is Dan Morgan made an absurdly foolish gamble.

RB is plug and play. No player at any position can miss the first three years of their career and hope to still have one.

I mean I'm not trying to be abrasive here but it is mind numbing that we've put ourselves in this position when all we had to do was take a flier on a running back in the mid rounds like the majority of the rest of the NFL does. But Dan Morgan similarly to the mindset of Scott Fitterer had to go and think he was the smartest guy in the room. But the Cowboys wanted him! Hey the Cowboys also wanted Jonathan Mingo. Big whoop.

The draft is a gamble. 

[pantherclaw]

Yes, the team needs to plan on not having Brooks.  Although there is no need to just cut. He could come back and be valuable to this team. 

[Frank9999]

I swear this was such a stupid pick man, what a waste

[Joe Bear]

23 hours ago, countryboi said:

We need a treat Brooks like he doesn’t exist and move on and if he comes back and plays well, that’s a bonus
 

I’m getting some real Biakabutuka vibes.

Biakabutuka's problem was fumbling, not ACLs.

[PNW_PantherMan]

2 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

Biakabutuka's problem was fumbling, not ACLs.

He was hurt all the time.  He never played more than 12 games in a season.

[frankw]

18 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

The draft is a gamble. 

Well of course the draft is ultimately a roll of the dice. But you should always as a talent evaluator prioritize availability.

[PNW_PantherMan]

3 hours ago, frankw said:

Well of course the draft is ultimately a roll of the dice. But you should always as a talent evaluator prioritize availability.

Playing Russian roulette with 5 bullets loaded in the chamber is also a gamble.  It comes down to maximizing the risk/reward formula.  Reaching on a devalued position that can’t even play for a year is not it.

[Davidson Deac II]

22 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

The draft is a gamble. 

True, but when you use a pick on a guy that already has a major injury, its a much bigger gamble.