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What’s our plan at MLB?

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I do understand that Derick Brown’s injury along with the lack of talent on the D-line was the main reason for our atrocious run defense, but the lack of quick instinctual flowing MLB who can shoot gaps and shed blocks on a consistent basis was also a huge reason why our defense was so horrible. Trevin Wallace was underwhelming, Shaq hurt, Jewell had a few awesome games but overall  was just ok and hurt a lot. 
 

So my question is, does Morgan draft a pure LB in the 2nd 3rd or 4th round? Barrett Carter (Clemson) Smael Mondon Jr (UJA) Chris Paul Jr (Ole) Cody Simon (OSU) are all LB’s that would tremendously help this defense. And this is assuming we don’t pick Jalon Walker in the 1st. Or even if we do, double dipping on a LB/Edge hybrid like walker and a pure MLB might not  be the worst idea. 
 

Sucks that the positions we drafted last year early on (RB and LB) are still areas of need. 
 

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17 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

I think it’s still Wallace. He was not supposed to be ready last year but injuries made him play a ton. He has a nose for the ball and think will be okay this year 

I kept hearing that he wasn’t supposed to play, but why not? I don’t understand why a 3rd round pick LB can’t play right away and perform. It’s a much easier position to play compared to others. MLB is similar to RB.. A lot of reading and reacting. Relying on instincts. If he was a 5th or 6th then ok, but it sounds like Wallace was over drafted if the expectations were that low. The ND MLB for Dallas performed great all year. Drafted a round or two after Wallace. 

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20 minutes ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

I kept hearing that he wasn’t supposed to play, but why not? I don’t understand why a 3rd round pick LB can’t play right away and perform. It’s a much easier position to play compared to others. MLB is similar to RB.. A lot of reading and reacting. Relying on instincts. If he was a 5th or 6th then ok, but it sounds like Wallace was over drafted if the expectations were that low. The ND MLB for Dallas performed great all year. Drafted a round or two after Wallace. 

He was viewed as a relatively raw guy coming in and he mostly proved to be that. I don't think it would have been as noticeable if the rest of the defense around him wasn't so insanely bad.

If you get better talent around him, his fug ups while he is learning/adjusting won't be as obvious. 

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28 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

In our 3-4 I think it’s Wallace and Jewell. If we get Shaq back on a cheap deal then I’m sure he is part of the equation as well. 

 

This is what I feel too. 

I mean us draft folks are planning on a heavy defense draft, that means LBs too. I wouldn't be against adding a vet (cheap) too. They are like RB in their market is super cold.

 

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4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He was viewed as a relatively raw guy coming in and he mostly proved to be that. I don't think it would have been as noticeable if the rest of the defense around him wasn't so insanely bad.

If you get better talent around him, his fug ups while he is learning/adjusting won't be as obvious. 

Yeah I remember hearing that about him. Just wished change that way we draft. Stop taking raw projects (Trevin, XL) instead take proven players 

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This is what I feel too. 

I mean us draft folks are planning on a heavy defense draft, that means LBs too. I wouldn't be against adding a vet (cheap) too. They are like RB in their market is super cold.

 

That is because there arent many game changing MLBs in the league right now. 

Who is even the best? Fred Warner I guess? The league used to have a number of guys at MLB that were sure fire HoF talents....not so much anymore. 

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38 minutes ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

I kept hearing that he wasn’t supposed to play, but why not? I don’t understand why a 3rd round pick LB can’t play right away and perform. It’s a much easier position to play compared to others. MLB is similar to RB.. A lot of reading and reacting. Relying on instincts. If he was a 5th or 6th then ok, but it sounds like Wallace was over drafted if the expectations were that low. The ND MLB for Dallas performed great all year. Drafted a round or two after Wallace. 

He was a very high level talent guy that was known needed some time to adapt to the NFL. Also I think in our scheme the MLB calls the defense and has the headset. It definitely is not an easy position for a rookie 

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1 minute ago, PootieNunu said:

That is because there arent many game changing MLBs in the league right now. 

Who is even the best? Fred Warner I guess? The league used to have a number of guys at MLB that were sure fire HoF talents....not so much anymore. 

 

Bears traded one to ravens. Rams nearly gave away a young great one for draft swap trash. 

I think you are right about Warner and I would say Smith is right next to him with this past year. I honestly don't follow the league like before, but it does feel like a lack of prime MLBs out there. I think that due to all the players growth up now must/super want to be either QB or WR. At least was the reports from these youth camps, the line for WR or QB is 50 depth. The line for LB or CB is like 6. 

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40 minutes ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

I kept hearing that he wasn’t supposed to play, but why not? I don’t understand why a 3rd round pick LB can’t play right away and perform. It’s a much easier position to play compared to others. MLB is similar to RB.. A lot of reading and reacting. Relying on instincts. If he was a 5th or 6th then ok, but it sounds like Wallace was over drafted if the expectations were that low. The ND MLB for Dallas performed great all year. Drafted a round or two after Wallace. 

Because the Panthers prefer players that are projects versus plug and play 

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