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[DeAngelo Beason]

Defense.  Defense out the arse.

[mrcompletely11]

18 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

Warren at 8 works for me, especially if they're not sold on any of the defensive guys available then.

Picking a te in the first round is a wasted pick.  Picking one in the top10 is trying to be a poverty franchise.  Dont overthink this go defense

[jayboogieman]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Picking a te in the first round is a wasted pick.  Picking one in the top10 is trying to be a poverty franchise.  Dont overthink this go defense

If the dude can be a true #1 option, and I think he can be, then it's not a wasted pick or trying to be a poverty franchise. It's taking a game changer, which the Panthers need.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, jayboogieman said:

If the dude can be a true #1 option, and I think he can be, then it's not a wasted pick or trying to be a poverty franchise. It's taking a game changer, which the Panthers need.

Since 2000 24 tight ends have been drafted in the first round.  4 in the top ten.   By all means please tell me which te was worth taking from that list.   Yeah I thought so.

 

If we take a te at pick 8 there the fans should burn ericsson stadium to the ground

 

• Brock Bowers, Las Vegas Raiders
• No. 13 overall, 2024
• Kyle Pitts, Atlanta Falcons
  No. 4 overall, 2021
• T.J. Hockenson, Detroit Lions
  No. 8, 2019
• Noah Fant, Denver Broncos
  No. 20, 2019
• Hayden Hurst, Baltimore Ravens
  No. 25, 2018
• O.J. Howard, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
  No. 19, 2017
• Evan Engram, New York Giants
  No. 23, 2017
• David Njoku, Cleveland Browns
  No. 29, 2017
• Eric Ebron, Detroit Lions
  No. 10, 2014
• Tyler Eifert, Cincinnati Bengals
  No. 21, 2013
• Jermaine Gresham, Cincinnati Bengals
  No. 21, 2010
• Brandon Pettigrew, Detroit Lions
  No. 20, 2009
• Dustin Keller, New York Jets
  No. 30, 2008
• Greg Olsen, Chicago Bears
  No. 31, 2007
• Vernon Davis, San Francisco 49ers
  No. 6, 2006
• Marcedes Lewis, Jacksonville Jaguars
  No. 28, 2006
• Heath Miller, Pittsburgh Steelers
  No. 30, 2005
• Kellen Winslow II, Cleveland Browns
  No. 6, 2004
• Ben Watson, New England Patriots
  No. 32, 2004
• Dallas Clark, Indianapolis Colts
  No. 24, 2003
• Jeremy Shockey, New York Giants
  No. 14, 2002
• Daniel Graham, New England Patriots
  No. 21, 2002
• Jerramy Stevens, Seattle Seahawks
  No. 28, 2002
• Todd Heap, Baltimore Ravens
  No. 31, 2001
• Bubba Franks, Green Bay Packers
  No. 14, 2000
• Anthony Becht, New York Jets
  No. 27, 2000

[Basbear]

On 2/23/2025 at 5:26 PM, kungfoodude said:

I have been saying if McMillian was there at 8 I would take him for weeks.

Higgins is the better option but he really has little reason to want to come here unless we are willing to outbid the entire rest of the NFL.

 

Dang I always get you and John snow mixed up, sorry bro. Getting a pass catcher is the smartest play the Panthers can make. That means either draft Tmac at #8 or draft defense stud at 8 and hope a stud TE falls to 57(its very possible). In either case, use the remaining picks on D and add one RB(deep class) in 4th or 5th. That's the solution and best out come. If both those paths fail, you can not do wrong by going full BPA, they need everything and depth everywhere...

[jayboogieman]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Since 2000 24 tight ends have been drafted in the first round.  4 in the top ten.   By all means please tell me which te was worth taking from that list.   Yeah I thought so.

Vernon Davis jumps off the list and Kellen Winslow was pretty good. But let's take a look at the other top ten guys. Since I haven't seen most of these guys play because I haven't paid attention to non Panther games in years, I'll look at stats and games played.

Pitts? Great rookie year, one injured year, and two iffy years. I'd say he hasn't been worth a top ten pick.

Hockenson? Lots of injuries but has gotten better every year until this past season. I'd say worth the pick.

Ebron? Injured and never really produced for Detroit. Not worth the pick.

Davis? As I said, jumps off the list and more than worth the pick.

Winslow? Worth the pick.

If you look at the rest, it's a mix like every other position with several guys that will probably end up in the HOF such as Miller, Lewis, and Clark. That's if they're not already in it.

[kungfoodude]

6 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

I think Warren is one of the few first round talents in this draft. This draft seems really light at the top, but good for overall depth. And Lord knows, good depth will be starters on this roster.

This is also one of the deepest positions in this draft, so unless he is Bowers 2.0, it's probably a bad pick.

There has to be no question he is an elite TE.

Otherwise you look as foolish as Atlanta did with Pitts.

Edited February 24, 2025 by kungfoodude

[kungfoodude]

26 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Vernon Davis jumps off the list and Kellen Winslow was pretty good. But let's take a look at the other top ten guys. Since I haven't seen most of these guys play because I haven't paid attention to non Panther games in years, I'll look at stats and games played.

Pitts? Great rookie year, one injured year, and two iffy years. I'd say he hasn't been worth a top ten pick.

Hockenson? Lots of injuries but has gotten better every year until this past season. I'd say worth the pick.

Ebron? Injured and never really produced for Detroit. Not worth the pick.

Davis? As I said, jumps off the list and more than worth the pick.

Winslow? Worth the pick.

If you look at the rest, it's a mix like every other position with several guys that will probably end up in the HOF such as Miller, Lewis, and Clark. That's if they're not already in it.

Winslow was worth a top 10???

He is right, the history of top 10 TE's is pretty bad. 

[Icege]

Tyler Warren is a dawg and a top 15, possibly top 10 prospect. The film is nuts.

Edited February 24, 2025 by Icege

[jayboogieman]

12 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This is also one of the deepest positions in this draft, so unless he is Bowers 2.0, it's probably a bad pick.

There has to be no question he is an elite TE.

Otherwise you look as foolish as Atlanta did with Pitts.

Warren has improved a lot over his time at PSU and made a massive leap this past season while shouldering the load of their offense. So yeah, he looks to be an elite TE prospect. And that's all you can go by until he starts playing in the NFL.

10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Winslow was worth a top 10???

I said what I said.

11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He is right, the history of top 10 TE's is pretty bad. 

Yeah, mostly because of injuries. But I'm sure that could be said for the majority of picks regardless of position.

[jfra78]

Yea just stay away from Reciever/TE in the 1st round.  Don't overthink it

[Basbear]

5 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Yea just stay away from Reciever/TE in the 1st round.  Don't overthink it

[PNW_PantherMan]

16 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Warren has improved a lot over his time at PSU and made a massive leap this past season while shouldering the load of their offense. So yeah, he looks to be an elite TE prospect. And that's all you can go by until he starts playing in the NFL.

I’m with you here.  He played at the highest levels of college and shined brilliantly.  There’s no better indicator of being NFL ready.  Sure it’s not 100%, but that doesn’t exist.

Look at it this way.  He made people think Drew Allar could play QB.

[kungfoodude]

17 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Warren has improved a lot over his time at PSU and made a massive leap this past season while shouldering the load of their offense. So yeah, he looks to be an elite TE prospect. And that's all you can go by until he starts playing in the NFL.

I said what I said.

Yeah, mostly because of injuries. But I'm sure that could be said for the majority of picks regardless of position.

No, it's mainly just poor evaluation.

The league's elite TE's are are heavily represented by non-1st round players. 

In a draft where TE is so deep, I would say TE at 8 is unwise because there doesn't seem to be a truly elite guy.

I feel the same about DE/Edge.