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28 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Horns deal looks better already

For those crying about Horn’s deal, notice that Stingley started 20 games his first two seasons due to injuries, but was healthy all last year. His new deal effectively resets the market for DBs according to The Athletic.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6209501/2025/03/17/texans-derek-stingley-jr-contract-extension/?source=user_shared_article

 

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According to ESPN NFL draft and college football analyst Jordan Reid, Jalon Walker sustained a quad strain during training and is not expected to participate in Georgia's upcoming pro day on Wednesday, March 12. The Salisbury, N.C. native, per Reid, is planning to hold a private workout for NFL teams on April 17.

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12 hours ago, jfra78 said:

"Schultz via NFL News] Bengals WRs Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins exclusively tell me they’ve agreed to contract extensions with the team. 4-years, $161M with $112M guaranteed for Chase — making him the highest-paid non-QB in NFL history. 4-years, $115M with the first two years guaranteed for Tee."

That's crazy

Sometimes the best deal is the one you don't make. Wouldve cost too much draft capital and way too much $$ for a good not great wr

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2 hours ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Record deal: Texans All-Pro CB Derek Stingley Jr has agreed to a three-year, $90 million extension including $89 million guaranteed. At $30M base value per year, Stingley is now the highest paid defensive back in NFL history. The CB market has been completely reset.

Now Jaycee is going to hold out in training camp for more money.😁

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13 hours ago, jfra78 said:

"Schultz via NFL News] Bengals WRs Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins exclusively tell me they’ve agreed to contract extensions with the team. 4-years, $161M with $112M guaranteed for Chase — making him the highest-paid non-QB in NFL history. 4-years, $115M with the first two years guaranteed for Tee."

That's crazy

Tee left so much money on the table, it’s crazy. Chase and Burrow didn’t leave any crumbs, so why did he?

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  • The market for good CBs is now $30m.
  • The market for an good edge is about $30m.
  • The market for a good starting QB is about $60m.
  • The market for a top T is nearly $30m. 
  • The market for a top WR is now $40m.
  • The market for a top DT is over $30m.
  • The market for a good OG is now over $20m. 
  • The market for a good TE is $15m 
  • The market for the best ILBs is $20m

That totals $275m and most of those positions require 2 or more starters.  There are 53 players on the roster.  The growing salary cap is going to the best players in the league, and these players are setting the market for lesser players. 

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43 minutes ago, countryboi said:

Tee left so much money on the table, it’s crazy. Chase and Burrow didn’t leave any crumbs, so why did he?

The Bengals are currently in negotiations with Hendrickson.  If they do, over 50% of their cap will go to 4 players.

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13 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The Bengals are currently in negotiations with Hendrickson.  If they do, over 50% of their cap will go to 4 players.

How is this a sustainable business model? The only way it works is if the Bengals hit on every single draft pick and they’ve already shown us they can’t do that.

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18 minutes ago, countryboi said:

How is this a sustainable business model? The only way it works is if the Bengals hit on every single draft pick and they’ve already shown us they can’t do that.

Beats me, buddy.  Look at SF--they are gutting their roster so they can give Purdy a QB deal.  I have a friend who said they should give the QB $130m of the cap and let him pay his OL, WRs, RBs, and TEs.  You want $60m?  Then you have $70m for the rest...

That is what bothers me about Bryce Young.  If you have to pay him $60m in 2 years, and if it takes $80m to pay for the kind of OL you need to protect him, and he needs WRs that will cost $40m and a meager $10m for RBs and $10 m for TEs....we are saying that for Bryce to be effective, it is going to cost $200m.  That leaves $80m for the defense.

We can't keep paying $30m per year for guards while our OTs are making $40m.  $10m at C, and a $60m QB is half the cap.  That does not include WRs, TEs, RBs.  It is crazy.  As you say, we have to draft effectively and we have to be very intelligent about our second contracts. '

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

Beats me, buddy.  Look at SF--they are gutting their roster so they can give Purdy a QB deal.  I have a friend who said they should give the QB $130m of the cap and let him pay his OL, WRs, RBs, and TEs.  You want $60m?  Then you have $70m for the rest...

That is what bothers me about Bryce Young.  If you have to pay him $60m in 2 years, and if it takes $80m to pay for the kind of OL you need to protect him, and he needs WRs that will cost $40m and a meager $10m for RBs and $10 m for TEs....we are saying that for Bryce to be effective, it is going to cost $200m.  That leaves $80m for the defense.

We can't keep paying $30m per year for guards while our OTs are making $40m.  $10m at C, and a $60m QB is half the cap.  That does not include WRs, TEs, RBs.  It is crazy.  As you say, we have to draft effectively and we have to be very intelligent about our second contracts. '

It’s hard to project 2 years in the future because of how much the cap grows each year but I think it’s fair to say when we pay Bryce we will not be able to retain everything on the OL. I think we keep the left side and then the right we shuffle some cheaper guys in. We have never paid a WR or TE for Bryce so that doesn’t seem to be an issue currently. We paid Chubba. So he currently has 2/4 of the groups you mentioned. I think that is sustainable after you pay him, I hope it’s OL light and WR instead of OL full and RB tho. 
 

the key is clear tho, you gotta draft well to succeed 

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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:
  • The market for good CBs is now $30m.
  • The market for an good edge is about $30m.
  • The market for a good starting QB is about $60m.
  • The market for a top T is nearly $30m. 
  • The market for a top WR is now $40m.
  • The market for a top DT is over $30m.
  • The market for a good OG is now over $20m. 
  • The market for a good TE is $15m 
  • The market for the best ILBs is $20m

That totals $275m and most of those positions require 2 or more starters.  There are 53 players on the roster.  The growing salary cap is going to the best players in the league, and these players are setting the market for lesser players. 

These owners are gonna start praying for draft picks to hit 

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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:
  • The market for good CBs is now $30m.
  • The market for an good edge is about $30m.
  • The market for a good starting QB is about $60m.
  • The market for a top T is nearly $30m. 
  • The market for a top WR is now $40m.
  • The market for a top DT is over $30m.
  • The market for a good OG is now over $20m. 
  • The market for a good TE is $15m 
  • The market for the best ILBs is $20m

That totals $275m and most of those positions require 2 or more starters.  There are 53 players on the roster.  The growing salary cap is going to the best players in the league, and these players are setting the market for lesser players. 

The market for average Joe is $60k

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