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Round 2 - Panthers Select Nic Scourton at pick 51


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4 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

We as an organization tend to air on the side of church league as you put it.

Many other teams and analyst apparently disagree with you here.

Teams want to win.  If they thought the good outweighed the bad, they would obviously take the chance.  They are clearly saying they want no part of that.  Why do you think that is?

Yep.  The nfl ie retired fbi guys investigated this dude and was like nope we good

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2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

So are we going to be in 4-3 or 3-4 more often next year? That weight fluctuation is wild. 

He played at Purdue at 257, then went to TAM and played at 285, he's back down to his normal weight at 257. 

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Just now, carpanfan96 said:

He played at Purdue at 257, then went to TAM and played at 285, he's back down to his normal weight at 257. 

It's kinda cool he can put on and take off weight like that.  Watch that Panthers get him to 265

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3 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

You watching the draft in your Rae Carruth jersey?  Lol

A bunch of teams have really strict behavior guidelines and rules for players.

 

The type of stuff where if players break the rules of the team it can void their contract completely. 

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2 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

A bunch of teams have really strict behavior guidelines and rules for players.

 

The type of stuff where if players break the rules of the team it can void their contract completely. 

Not gonna get that pick back, though.

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2 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

Not gonna get that pick back, though.

Those teams won't typically touch those type of players. The ones that don't have them in place are the ones that will usually take a shot later on in the draft than the player should've been taken. 

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We put ourselves in position to get the best of the rest of the edge talent available in the second round and we chose him above every other option without having him in for a top-30 visit. I think that should speak volumes about what we think of him. 

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