Round 2 - Panthers Select Nic Scourton at pick 51

[96Bravo]

I like the pick...especially if we go with a 3-4 D because supposedly Scourton dominated in that scheme. I feel like these DE picks + the free agents (Pat Jones, etc) our pass rush will at least be much better than last year.

[carpanfan96]

1 hour ago, 96Bravo said:

I like the pick...especially if we go with a 3-4 D because supposedly Scourton dominated in that scheme. I feel like these DE picks + the free agents (Pat Jones, etc) our pass rush will at least be much better than last year.

We've been running a 3-4 under Ejiro, it's his preferred front

[96Bravo]

23 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

We've been running a 3-4 under Ejiro, it's his preferred front

Right. Would've been more correct for me to say if we "continue" to go with a 3-4.

[MHS831]

I did some reading about Evero's defense.  On early downs, he likes to send either safety on a run blitz and sometimes slide the edge into the flat in coverage.  So we just drafted 2 safeties that are good at that (like Chinn) and can also cover.  (not like Chinn).  They are smart processors. This opens things up when you don't blitz because the OL is shifting inside when they bluff.   In addition, Evero likes DTs who can collapse the pocket, rush the passer with swim moves, bull rushes, spins--almost like Edges.  What they just did was got better at NT--because that is where it begins.  Tuttle sucked there last year.  In all, the edge rushers should get fewer double teams etc. Evero simply did not have the personnel last year, which is why they did not fire him

[Basbear]

18 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I did some reading about Evero's defense.  On early downs, he likes to send either safety on a run blitz and sometimes slide the edge into the flat in coverage.  So we just drafted 2 safeties that are good at that (like Chinn) and can also cover.  (not like Chinn).  They are smart processors. This opens things up when you don't blitz because the OL is shifting inside when they bluff.   In addition, Evero likes DTs who can collapse the pocket, rush the passer with swim moves, bull rushes, spins--almost like Edges.  What they just did was got better at NT--because that is where it begins.  Tuttle sucked there last year.  In all, the edge rushers should get fewer double teams etc. Evero simply did not have the personnel last year, which is why they did not fire him

One thing I heard about evero was, he was a amazing blitz play caller.....3 years later Im still waiting. 

This is the last straw for me, this year show me. period.

I do feel both Ransom and Moehrig can play together or hope that's a option.

The NT is no longer a excuse with Bobby brown. Besides they signed turttle and KEPT him after so-so seasons. 

No excuses, have a old type Panthers defense rank feel to this year or fire his arse mid-season.  

Edited April 28, 2025 by Basbear

[MHS831]

35 minutes ago, Basbear said:

One thing I heard about evero was, he was a amazing blitz play caller.....3 years later Im still waiting. 

This is the last straw for me, this year show me. period.

I do feel both Ransom and Moehrig can play together or hope that's a option.

The NT is no longer a excuse with Bobby brown. Besides they signed turttle and KEPT him after so-so seasons. 

No excuses, have a old type Panthers defense rank feel to this year or fire his arse mid-season.  

I have yet to be impressed---they gave him all he should need to be successful.  I really did not know what to look for, but he should have no excuses now. Canales could have let Bryce go, and he held on and it paid off.  Maybe he thinks it will work again. I dunno.

[Bostonheelfish]

Tuttle was played at NT out of necessity because we were that thin on the DL. He’s only 300 lbs. we kept him because we have now acquired some NTs and Tuttle can move around. 

[XClown1986]

Preseason, Scourton was being looked at as a potential top 10-15 pick. His role at A&M really muted his abilities. We might have gotten a real steal here.

[DaveThePanther2008]

On 4/26/2025 at 3:43 AM, carpanfan96 said:

He won't play like that, look more at his Purdue tape. He weighed 280-285 at TAM last year playing a containment end for them. He's at 257 now, the weight he played at Purdue. 

Had he stayed at Purdue it's quite possible he would have been a hot commodity. Definitely 1st round. 

On 4/26/2025 at 3:44 AM, XClown1986 said:

20 years old, bulked up to play the "containment" role at A&M, still had 5 sacks, trimmed 20 lbs off for the combine, and his comps have been Trey Hendrickson and George Karlaftis. Not to mention the guy's character is top notch. Love it.

From what I have heard he's more of a stand up defender than knuckles in the ground. TAM had him mostly with his hand in the ground. 

Let him go back to a weight he seems happier at, not to mention more productive. 

Plus if they are comparing him to Trey Hendrickson and George Karlaftis I'll take that every day. 

[Icege]

12 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I did some reading about Evero's defense.  On early downs, he likes to send either safety on a run blitz and sometimes slide the edge into the flat in coverage.  So we just drafted 2 safeties that are good at that (like Chinn) and can also cover.  (not like Chinn).  They are smart processors. This opens things up when you don't blitz because the OL is shifting inside when they bluff.   In addition, Evero likes DTs who can collapse the pocket, rush the passer with swim moves, bull rushes, spins--almost like Edges.  What they just did was got better at NT--because that is where it begins.  Tuttle sucked there last year.  In all, the edge rushers should get fewer double teams etc. Evero simply did not have the personnel last year, which is why they did not fire him

He really likes to slide the edge that draws the double teams in those situations to create more confusion for opposing OLs as well which makes life even easier for the blitzing LBs & safeties.

Also, with the addition of Ransom as @Basbear pointed out, that gives the team a third safety that can potentially contribute right away on both special teams and the defense. I wouldn't be surprised to see Evero march him out there in three safety personnel groupings.

I keep reminding myself that the team is one more offseason away but it's really hard to not be excited about seeing how they develop this season. As much as I want W's, I'm more interested in seeing last year's draft class take the leap that Bryce did in their second year.

Edited April 28, 2025 by Icege