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I would disagree that CB is a massive need.  Mike Jackson and Jaycee Horn both played very well last year with a front 7 utterly incapable of pressuring the QB or stopping the run.  That said, I'd love to see Jackson moved to nickel and Ramsey take over outside.  I would trade a 5th rounder for him in a heartbeat.

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4 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

I would disagree that CB is a massive need.  Mike Jackson and Jaycee Horn both played very well last year with a front 7 utterly incapable of pressuring the QB or stopping the run.  That said, I'd love to see Jackson moved to nickel and Ramsey take over outside.  I would trade a 5th rounder for him in a heartbeat.

We have 2 startable cbs, good defenses have atleast 4 startable corners. We are in a pass happy era, base defenses have three corners on the field and dime packages with 4 corners are becoming incredibly common. We have zero depth at corner, if Jaycee or Jackson miss any time we will be torched in the air. Also Mike Jackson is an outside corner only, he is a big zone corner with below average change of direction and agility he would be a bad fit at nickle.

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1 minute ago, shaq said:

We have 2 startable cbs, good defenses have atleast 4 startable corners. We are in a pass happy era, base defenses have three corners on the field and dime packages with 4 corners are becoming incredibly common. We have zero depth at corner, if Jaycee or Jackson miss any time we will be torched in the air. Also Mike Jackson is an outside corner only, he is a big zone corner with below average change of direction and agility he would be a bad fit at nickle.

Completely disagree on your Mike Jackson assessment.  There are a ton of guys that play in the slot that are great matchups for him... especially now that the tight end is essentially a third receiver.  He also is solid in run support and would hugely improve our run defense playing in the nickel.

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26 minutes ago, Verge said:

I think the team is pretty comfortable with their corner room 

They really shouldn't be. We don't have a starting caliber nickel. And one injury to Jaycee or Mike Jackson would derail everything. 

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It depends on the plan that Morgan/Canales have. If they're looking to build still, I can see them leaning into the young guys like with what they're doing at WR.

If they're trying to take the training wheels off now and push for the division, then make the trade. I don't think that's the plan though... I think they look at how the team develops over the course of this season and then makes any big time moves based on those results.

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He is also a player that has that "lock room cancer" tag.  We don't see much of the full picture, but I try to stay far away from that type of player.

He is historically not good at losing, and we tend to do that a good bit.

Not a good fit in my opinion.  I respect the skill, though.

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5 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Completely disagree on your Mike Jackson assessment.  There are a ton of guys that play in the slot that are great matchups for him... especially now that the tight end is essentially a third receiver.  He also is solid in run support and would hugely improve our run defense playing in the nickel.

Look at his snap counts, your telling me that his entire college and pro football career every coach he has had has misused him? No offense but I don’t think you understand the role of a slot corner. Mike Jackson is the literal definition of an outside zone corner, he would be totally inept as a slot corner. Ala why he has been an outside corner his entire career.

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4 hours ago, Icege said:

It depends on the plan that Morgan/Canales have. If they're looking to build still, I can see them leaning into the young guys like with what they're doing at WR.

If they're trying to take the training wheels off now and push for the division, then make the trade. I don't think that's the plan though... I think they look at how the team develops over the course of this season and then makes any big time moves based on those results.

Totally agree with you, if we had invested in drafting a corner or two I wouldn’t even ponder adding Ramsey. But, to be honest we legit added nobody to our corner room this offseason we have nobody worth developing. Even if Chau Smith Wade is better then what I think, he is the only guy we have invested draft capital into outside of our starters.

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