RUMOR: Panthers possibly making an addition in the secondary

[Basbear]

Why Ramsey? Is Horn already hurt or something?? 

Hes talking about the FSU kicker missing everything, is my guess. 

[jb2288]

5 hours ago, Basbear said:

Why Ramsey? Is Horn already hurt or something?? 

Hes talking about the FSU kicker missing everything, is my guess. 

Horn is 1 CB. You kinda need 3-4 CBs. 

[shaq]

8 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

The Ramesy thing doesnt make sense as its only a one year rental.  Seems like an expensive rental.

Ramsey will play in the league another 3 years minimum, personally I think he has potentially 5 or more left in him. His game was never very reliant on speed, he is a physical run defender who can always transition to safety.

[shaq]

8 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You don't pay a 32 year old corner 25 million a year.   There is an out after 25

He’s 30

[Aussie Tank]

We will probably trade for a Browns CB 

Edited 15 hours ago by Aussie Tank

[mrcompletely11]

6 hours ago, shaq said:

He’s 30

He turns 31 in Oct.   He has an out after this season.  If he stays on his current contract its at 25 million per and he would turn 32 during that season

 

You dont pay 32 year old corners 25 million dollars.  So in all likelihood its a one year rental.

[CmC2k]

I trust that the front office and Brandt tilis would workout a reworked contract before we'd make a trade. Those future cap hits are brutal and we have to think about extending Ickey and Bryce in a couple years. 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

An impact player coming in may be correct, but I heard nothing in that feed to indicate it. 
 

just my opinion and I’m often wrong though

[shaq]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He turns 31 in Oct.   He has an out after this season.  If he stays on his current contract its at 25 million per and he would turn 32 during that season

 

You dont pay 32 year old corners 25 million dollars.  So in all likelihood it’s a one year rental.

 Respectfully man I think you’re making a lot of assumptions, granted this whole situation is a total hypothetical. I get where you’re coming from, paying an older corner is not always ideal. But my simplest rebuttal would be any sort of extension would likely buffer that $25 million. And at the same time if he was extended it would likely mean he’s still playing at an elite level, which he is currently playing at. Along with the fact even worst case scenario he walks, we would likely recoup a similarly equivalent comp pick in the next years draft. Trading for Jalen would be an educated risk, personally I lean towards I think it would make sense. Due to the fact that we still have Bryce on his rookie deal and it gives us the flexibility to be a bit more aggressive with roster construction. And I view CB as probably our second biggest weakness outside of Safety currently. 

[Waldo]

I just don't think the team has to take a swing on an expensive CB unless Horn is already hurt or if JR will play free safety in that black hole of tallent at thst position. 

It would be a terrible sign if they spend draft capital on buying an older and expensive CB, anything before a 6th really. This team is trying to hit .500 for the first time in years and still wouldn't be a contender with JR on the roster. They have 2 good CBs and the young guys have to step up or this build is going nowhere. 

[CRA]

16 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Gilmore was pretty good though

sure, I mean, rental win now guys are good. 

but what we needed to be doing, was developing and trying to find a young DB to play across Horn.   Because we weren't a win now team. 

[poorboysrev]

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He turns 31 in Oct.   He has an out after this season.  If he stays on his current contract its at 25 million per and he would turn 32 during that season

 

You dont pay 32 year old corners 25 million dollars.  So in all likelihood its a one year rental.

Hard to know if he’s expecting that kinda crazy money on his next contract. I don’t think any team is paying him that again. If he is then I absolutely wouldn’t. IF it’s more reasonable and they’re confident they can agree on extension it starts making sense. Even moreso if he’s open to playing some FS. I doubt it happens but if it does I’d really hope that’s the case

[mrcompletely11]

2 hours ago, poorboysrev said:

Hard to know if he’s expecting that kinda crazy money on his next contract. I don’t think any team is paying him that again. If he is then I absolutely wouldn’t. IF it’s more reasonable and they’re confident they can agree on extension it starts making sense. Even moreso if he’s open to playing some FS. I doubt it happens but if it does I’d really hope that’s the case

So under that scenario the panthers would void the deal after 2025 season and he could simply walk.  Seems like a pricey gamble for a 4rth or 5th round pick.  And thats not even considering we cant afford him status quo.  

[mrcompletely11]

3 hours ago, shaq said:

 Respectfully man I think you’re making a lot of assumptions, granted this whole situation is a total hypothetical. I get where you’re coming from, paying an older corner is not always ideal. But my simplest rebuttal would be any sort of extension would likely buffer that $25 million. And at the same time if he was extended it would likely mean he’s still playing at an elite level, which he is currently playing at. Along with the fact even worst case scenario he walks, we would likely recoup a similarly equivalent comp pick in the next years draft. Trading for Jalen would be an educated risk, personally I lean towards I think it would make sense. Due to the fact that we still have Bryce on his rookie deal and it gives us the flexibility to be a bit more aggressive with roster construction. And I view CB as probably our second biggest weakness outside of Safety currently. 

In your scenario for all this to work is for him to not only play like a top 10ish corner and assuming he would redo his original deal if we didnt want to out right cut him.  Yeah man I dont think extending a 32 year old corner is in our cards especially when the average age of a nfl corner is 27.  That just doesnt make sense no matter how well one thinks he is playing.

 

All in all like you say its all assumptions and hypotheticals but I really dont see morgan doing this after everything he has said and done about bad contracts