Mini camp Day Two

[LinvilleGorge]

36 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Love Josh Norman, one of my favorite Panthers. Glad to see him at camp.

I'll always despise Dave Gettleman for letting his ego get in the way of smart football business on that one. That fiasco absolutely sucked the air out of that locker room and pretty much tanked that season before it started.

[PootieNunu]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'll always despise Dave Gettleman for letting his ego get in the way of smart football business on that one. That fiasco absolutely sucked the air out of that locker room and pretty much tanked that season before it started.

Stupid fuger. Im not going to pay you, ill just flat out release you and waste the draft trying and failing to replace you. 

I thought the poo was a joke when the news broke he had rescinded the tag. 

[therealmjl]

40 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Love Josh Norman, one of my favorite Panthers. Glad to see him at camp.

 

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'll always despise Dave Gettleman for letting his ego get in the way of smart football business on that one. That fiasco absolutely sucked the air out of that locker room and pretty much tanked that season before it started.

It’s cool to have him back around that's for sure. Unfortunately his time here was cut short because of our tub-of-lard GM at the time.

As far as I know, he has pretty much no direct ties to anyone on the current staff or front office - so it’s random to have him around but I’m glad that we have an open invitation to one of this lowly franchise’s most important players. 

[t96]

2 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Stupid fuger. Im not going to pay you, ill just flat out release you and waste the draft trying and failing to replace you. 

I thought the poo was a joke when the news broke he had rescinded the tag. 

Bradberry was a great pick and worthy replacement. Rest of that draft was ass though

[PootieNunu]

5 minutes ago, t96 said:

Bradberry was a great pick and worthy replacement. Rest of that draft was ass though

Bradberry was never on 2015 Josh Normans level. He was a decent corner, but not a replacement. His ball skills were ass, Norman erased half of the field in 2015

[Davidson Deac II]

14 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

 

It’s cool to have him back around that's for sure. Unfortunately his time here was cut short because of our tub-of-lard GM at the time.

As far as I know, he has pretty much no direct ties to anyone on the current staff or front office - so it’s random to have him around but I’m glad that we have an open invitation to one of this lowly franchise’s most important players. 

We have one guy here who played with Norman. 

I am sure there are a few guys working for the team that were here in 2015, might be people we would never hear about though.  

[jfra78]

29 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'll always despise Dave Gettleman for letting his ego get in the way of smart football business on that one. That fiasco absolutely sucked the air out of that locker room and pretty much tanked that season before it started.

He dismantled a superbowl team, can't ever forgive him for that

[Coheed]

28 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Bradberry was never on 2015 Josh Normans level. He was a decent corner, but not a replacement. His ball skills were ass, Norman erased half of the field in 2015

Norman had the better peak but bradberry was more consistent over a longer period 

[Captain Morgan]

Gettleman.  We were so desperate for CBs he drafted 3 that year, and missed so badly on the 5th rounder who didn't even make the team.  A fifth rounder!

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, t96 said:

Bradberry was a great pick and worthy replacement. Rest of that draft was ass though

He shouldn't have a been a replacement, but a compliment. Norman was the only NFL caliber CB we had and Gettleman let him walk to win a dick measuring contest.

[Gapanthersfan]

One theme I’m already noticing… players are taking this season very seriously. I’m getting the vibe that there won’t be a lot of laughing on the sidelines this year. 

[PootieNunu]

1 hour ago, Coheed said:

Norman had the better peak but bradberry was more consistent over a longer period 

We really only got to see Norman in our system for 1 and a half seasons. He could have been elite for a couple more seasons if given the chance imo.

Bradberry was only good. 

Would have been nice to have Norman and Bradberry together. 

[Basbear]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'll always despise Dave Gettleman for letting his ego get in the way of smart football business on that one. That fiasco absolutely sucked the air out of that locker room and pretty much tanked that season before it started.

That was the move that broke off my relationship with Dave. MFER!!!! With Norman that was the best chance to have back-2-back winning season........Just ride out the tag. If he didn't want to show up, fine his arse. He's getting 16-17 million more than his previous 4 years combined. fug......

He didn't even try and trade him either, just got ultra butt-hurt with feelings and dumped a prime player......... I was not in agreement with long term either. Still one of the best football minds scooped him up and made him the highest paid....... So dumb the whole way it played out. 

Then he used nearly the whole draft to find Normans replacement and ANOTHER STARTER, just asking for failure. After QB, CB is the hardest spot to play as a rookie. You got to run backwards with a 230 6'3 4.3 40 Juilo Jones???????????? Impossible and Norman did it as well as anyone not named revis. Then next week you got Mike "tying records with Jerry Rice" Evans whos taller...... No breaks next week you got Drew Brees, Closton and cooks with Payton calling plays like a shark in bloody water. 

 

[t96]

15 hours ago, PootieNunu said:

Bradberry was never on 2015 Josh Normans level. He was a decent corner, but not a replacement. His ball skills were ass, Norman erased half of the field in 2015

 

14 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He shouldn't have a been a replacement, but a compliment. Norman was the only NFL caliber CB we had and Gettleman let him walk to win a dick measuring contest.

 

 

I was as big of a fan of Josh as anyone and was pissed about that situation then and still am today. But Bradberry was also a legit #1 corner for a while here, not as flashy as Josh or as mentioned before in this thread not at the level of Josh's peak, but he was more consistent and just a quiet stud. Like Gamble was. Was just correcting the post from before about how the draft was completely wasted trying to replace him, which is a notion I just disagree with. Bradberry was a great pick and legit #1 corner. As I already posted, the rest of the draft was an absolute disaster but we did come away with a Josh replacement. And yeah it should've been both but I'm just evaluating the moves after the Josh fiasco.

 

Also worth noting we did have Bene who was coming off 2 incredible seasons before breaking his leg late in 2015. I don't think anyone expected him to fall off nearly as much as he did following that injury. If he had gotten back to that level of play, Bradberry on the outside with him in the slot would be a decent pair to bolster a corner group. Those 2 plus a veteran outside CB signing after the Josh fiasco would've been a reasonably good group. But Bene couldn't get his conditioning back and sucked and DG was confident in 3 rookies which was dumb as hell.