Wild Idea.. Trade for Shemar Stewart

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Hell, his agent can't allow it looking out for his own interests. If Stewart was willing to sign a deal wildly out of step with the norm on a bad way his agent would probably tell him he's got a walk. If I want to sign future 1st round draft prospects I can't be a part of this.

This 1000%.  Hey who wants to sign with the guy that couldn't even get his client the guaranteed contract of a 3rd round pick?  Lmao

[Mistuh Jones]

This is gonna be longest six weeks ever 

[WUnderhill]

They probably saw dudes dad saying they idolize Thanos after he got drafted and were like nahhh idk about all this genocide stuff.

[rebelrouser]

They sort of drafted him in case they couldn't reach a deal with Trey Hendrickson. Maybe they are close with Hendrickson. I think the A&M defensive scheme may have hurt Scourton and Stewart's sack numbers but at least Nic had four; Stewart had 1.5.  If we hadn't drafted two edge rushers, i would be in favor of exploring a trade for the guy.  

[shaqattaq]

14 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Here something else to consider. We're already heavily reliant on rookies at EDGE rusher with two 2nd round rookies on the roster. If you add a third that's going to be three rookies on that unit and you're going to have to bounce a vet. That scenario had Wonnum included in the trade along with a 2nd and a 4th. Three rookies on one unit just seems like a bad idea. Rookies need a lot of coaching and development and you're going to be stretching that thing while also requiring them to play a lot of snaps.

Yeah, I wouldn't want to go into the season with 3 rookies and Jones, who hasn't ever been a "starter" before. Getting rid of DJ is deal breaker for me.

[shaqattaq]

14 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Our FO didn't give DJ Johnson a hard time for being a bad pick.

THAT'S the trade! DJ for Shemar even-steven. I'll guarantee his full rookie contract, then let him vie for a backup role. He can only poison the locker room so much from the bench. If he becomes a beast...we win big.

Not that they would agree to this, but it's about what I'm willing to give up for a cancerous turd.

Edited Tuesday at 01:07 PM by shaqattaq

[shaqattaq]

12 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Seems like a lot of trouble for a 3rd round salary lol.  They make around 1mm per year.

He was drafted #17 overall.

[ForJimmy]

It would have to be a super diminished value trade.  Like a 6th that could turn into a 5th maybe 4th (conditional) or something like that.  It's not happening regardless. 

[WUnderhill]

Let’s be real, there’s no way the Bengals can trade him for less than first round value from an optics stand point.

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 hour ago, shaqattaq said:

He was drafted #17 overall.

For some reason I thought he fell.  Sheesh I was way off.

[shaqattaq]

3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

For some reason I thought he fell.  Sheesh I was way off.

That's what makes this so absurd, 1st round contract SHOULD be fully guaranteed! The Bengals are the bad guys here. If they didn't want to guarantee is contract, don't pick him in the 1st!!!

[Rags]

3 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

That's what makes this so absurd, 1st round contract SHOULD be fully guaranteed! The Bengals are the bad guys here. If they didn't want to guarantee is contract, don't pick him in the 1st!!!

Lol there's two 2nd round picks this year that got fully guarantees.

Drafting a project that high then trying to  downplay him is peak Bengals. And I'm a guy who liked Stewart more than most.

[shaqattaq]

1 minute ago, Rags said:

Lol there's two 2nd round picks this year that got fully guarantees.

Drafting a project that high then trying to  downplay him is peak Bengals. And I'm a guy who liked Stewart more than most.

I think he was too much of a gamble for us at 8, or even them at 17. BUT, that doesn't matter. They took that gamble but don't want to ante up! Fug that! Nothing like pissing off you 1st round pick before he ever even suits up for practice, they're being idiots.

[UnluckyforSome]

Bengals are a notoriously cheap franchise.

When they were pursuing Tony Siragusa as a free agent, they provided him with a coach plane ticket.

Players were responsible for their own soap and toiletry items. None would be provided by the team.

They are content to underpay their best defensive player with what amounts to a short term prove it type deal.

The offset language at issue in the contract has not been included in their previous contracts, so it certainly sounds like buyer remorse.