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Taylor Moton gets emotional talking about what happens next year


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16 hours ago, TD alt said:

On an off note, we may not have to pay Bryce if things don't go as planned. Barnwell isn't inking Bryce just yet:

"There might be a truly desperate team out there willing to send a first-round pick to the Panthers right now, but I suspect most would probably prefer to wait and see whether the QB from the second half of 2024 is the guy we see in 2025. We might find out what Young really fetches in a trade after this season."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45824150/nfl-trade-tiers-2025-players-worth-first-round-pick-all-32-teams-contract-value#CAR

Not that I'm trying to hijack the thread or anything...might have more money available than we thought...

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Honestly if a team was offering us a 1st for Bryce right now I do that deal in a damn heartbeat. Ride it out with Dalton or whoever while we pseudo-tank and continue to let time build the D, etc. and grab a QB high in the 1st round next year. Hopefully Bryce proves me wrong but I'm just so far from sold on his future here, even with the rebound last year. But I don't think any team would offer us a 1st right now.

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42 minutes ago, t96 said:

Honestly if a team was offering us a 1st for Bryce right now I do that deal in a damn heartbeat. Ride it out with Dalton or whoever while we pseudo-tank and continue to let time build the D, etc. and grab a QB high in the 1st round next year. Hopefully Bryce proves me wrong but I'm just so far from sold on his future here, even with the rebound last year. But I don't think any team would offer us a 1st right now.

I can think of 4 or 5 teams that would probably be willing to part with a first rounder for the hope of a franchise QB. 

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Moton has been our best player during the dark years but I agree with the general opinion here that whether he stays or goes is likely up to him and how much money he wants. For me personally, if I had already made over 100 million and wanted to finish my career here than I would accept the teams offer and finish my career here. I know not many people think that way and will get all offended over a few million but really, how much does a person need if you're happy?

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On 7/30/2025 at 2:08 PM, Waldo said:

Can't play forever and being 300+ makes it even worse. Great dude but I just hope he can play through the year healthy. 

Signing 2 OGs at max market value just made this inevitable last year while the LT is looking at a new contract. It's just the NFL business side.

Ickey is looking at a new contract as a back-up elsewhere. Certainly not here. I get the NC State fans and Charlotte nativists want to see him succeed, as we all do, but he's been hot garbage in the most important times. now he's being beat like a drum by a rookie. Even in shorts and shirts, that's embarrassing. I still think that had Ickey not been playing in 2022, Darnold would still be here. His complete meltdown against the Bucs was the butterfly wing flapping. 

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6 hours ago, Panthers Rhule said:

Moton has been our best player during the dark years but I agree with the general opinion here that whether he stays or goes is likely up to him and how much money he wants. For me personally, if I had already made over 100 million and wanted to finish my career here than I would accept the teams offer and finish my career here. I know not many people think that way and will get all offended over a few million but really, how much does a person need if you're happy?

He's probably made $40 million. Taxes, agents, money managers, etc. 

I could live on $40 million, and who am I to judge how much money is enough for one person? If they want more and have the means to get it reasonably without physically harming others, go for it. I'm not one to be envious of what others have though. 

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1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

Ickey is looking at a new contract as a back-up elsewhere. Certainly not here. I get the NC State fans and Charlotte nativists want to see him succeed, as we all do, but he's been hot garbage in the most important times. now he's being beat like a drum by a rookie. Even in shorts and shirts, that's embarrassing. I still think that had Ickey not been playing in 2022, Darnold would still be here. His complete meltdown against the Bucs was the butterfly wing flapping. 

Lol. He may not be the prototype LT but he is solid. Your takes are embarrassing. IDGAF about anything in the NCAA but prospects. Still pining for Datnold is freaking hilarious.

Ickey's weakness is passprotect from speed. He is smart and has room to improve a bit in his weakness but he is a beast in the run game. That's worth more than your willing to admit. I would still take him over everything since Gross so just GTFO of here with that weak and sad take. 

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12 hours ago, Camp Fodder said:

2017 was his best draft by far

Gettleman sure could draft after the first round I'll give him credit there. If they continued with his style the players would have all hated each other too. 

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