2025 Roster Cuts

[shaqattaq]

7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, Darnold is a bum and has always been. You will see that in full form this year in Seattle, I predict, on the way to being what he should be....a career backup QB.

Mayfield was literally a good QB prior to us getting him. I never bought into the "Mayfield is a bum" stuff. He wasn't/isn't an elite QB but he is far from a lower tier starter.

They didn't work out well here because how in the fug could you in the conditions we had for them? 

I don't think that either of them are top-tier starters, but I wouldn't call Darnold a bum either. I WAS definitely more excited for Mayfield than him certainly, but the man did lead the Vikes to a 14-3 season last year:

Key Stats for Sam Darnold in 2024 

• QBR: 102.5
• Passing Yards: 4,319 (career high)
• Touchdowns: 39 (career high)
• Completion Percentage: 66.2% (career high)

[45catfan]

Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

Deck chairs.  Titanic.

Backup QB is what fans of teams like the Eagles argue about.

And yet the Eagles go out and actually try to improve it.  Winner's mentality compared to a losers mentality.  Winners, while already good, try to get even better even at mundane things like backup QB.  Losers have the mentality of 'this is the all we got, so just make the best of it."  

I could care less about Dalton one way or the other, my ire is squarely pointed at our inept front office.

[jb2288]

17 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

You can disagree with it if you like, but he is in fact considered one of the best backups in the NFL. 

Plus he was asked to be the starter with the Saints and went 6-8. If a backup QB gets you anywhere near .500 that’s amazing value. Using his time at the saints as a negative just shows how out of touch this argument even is. 

[carpanfan96]

Just now, shaqattaq said:

I don't think that either of them are top-tier starters, but I wouldn't call Darnold a bum either. I WAS definitely more excited for Mayfield than him certainly, but the man did lead the Vikes to a 14-3 season last year:

Key Stats for Sam Darnold in 2024 

• QBR: 102.5
• Passing Yards: 4,319 (career high)
• Touchdowns: 39 (career high)
• Completion Percentage: 66.2% (career high)

He was saying that because Minnesota's offense is considered super QB friendly and Seattle's is well ... Not as much so. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

Just now, 45catfan said:

And yet the Eagles go out and actually try to improve it.  Winner's mentality compared to a losers mentality.  Winners, while already good, try to get even better even at mundane things like backup QB.  Losers have the mentality of 'this is the all we got, so just make the best of it."  

I could care less about Dalton one way or the other, my ire is squarely pointed at our inept front office.

You think we should have given up draft capital to improve backup QB?  With all the other backups that are starting on this team?  I'm not sure I can agree with that.  The Eagles are at a much different spot in the life cycle of their competitive window.

[Shocker]

I personally don’t get the decision to go with Dalton (old and declining) and especially Plummer.  Doesn’t make me feel good about this FO.  Go get a development QB that is actually good and move on.  

Edited August 25, 2025 by Shocker

[CarolinaLivin]

21 minutes ago, frankw said:

 

I mean reality says this is simply not true. He is bad. He was bad with the Saints and that's why they rejected him and moved on. You are living in an alternate reality. That's why we cannot come to an agreement.

They rejected him as a QB1. No one is arguing that Dalton is or isn’t a QB1 talent, he is where he should be firmly in a QB2 position. And soon he’ll be moving ever-so-closely to QB Coach type QB3 and likely into coaching. Some offensive minds/former QBs have taken that route. 
 

If you feel we could upgrade, cool, we could upgrade almost every position on this team. 

[carpanfan96]

1 minute ago, jb2288 said:

Plus he was asked to be the starter with the Saints and went 6-8. If a backup QB gets you anywhere near .500 that’s amazing value. Using his time at the saints as a negative just shows how out of touch this argument even is. 

Shhhh! Be careful there, logic is generally frowned upon down here in NFL hell. 

[jb2288]

Just now, Shocker said:

I personally don’t get the decision to go with Dalton (old and declining) and especially Plummer.  Doesn’t make me feel good about this FO

Hold your horses on Plummer. I’m hopefully he’s gone tomorrow. 

[ThPantherFan]

On 8/22/2025 at 2:13 PM, Mr. Scot said:

 

no thanks.

[frankw]

Just now, CarolinaLivin said:

They rejected him as a QB1. No one is arguing that Dalton is or isn’t a QB1 talent, he is where he should be firmly in a QB2 position. And soon he’ll be moving ever-so-closely to QB Coach type QB3 and likely into coaching. Some offensive minds/former QBs have taken that route. 
 

If you feel we could upgrade, cool, we could upgrade almost every position on this team. 

They could have easily kept him as a backup to mentor an upcoming draft pick but they had seen enough. They chased after Carr and probably saved us as supposedly we were hot for him too at one point. Unfortunately we made an even worse panic move. But. That's the Panthers for you.

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, frankw said:

I see the rationale from some folks regarding the level of play from terrible QB's like Andy Dalton as being like someone who has been in abusive relationship for so long they make excuses for their abusers and even defend them. Very sad. But it happens.

I think you are just lashing out pointlessly because you are just generally butthurt. I have no idea why the backup QB suddenly is the most important thing in your mind but by all means, keep ranting away.

I can assure you, our failure or success this season will have very, very little to do with that.

[CarolinaLivin]

Just now, frankw said:

They could have easily kept him as a backup to mentor an upcoming draft pick but they had seen enough. They chased after Carr and probably saved us as supposedly we were hot for him too at one point. Unfortunately we made an even worse panic move. But. That's the Panthers for you.

They didn’t need a mentor as they went the vet route. We did and he is who we chose. It is what it is. I assume he’ll likely be gone in no more than 2 years whether Bryce is the guy or not. So try to get to know the red rifle. 

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

I don't think that either of them are top-tier starters, but I wouldn't call Darnold a bum either. I WAS definitely more excited for Mayfield than him certainly, but the man did lead the Vikes to a 14-3 season last year:

Key Stats for Sam Darnold in 2024 

• QBR: 102.5
• Passing Yards: 4,319 (career high)
• Touchdowns: 39 (career high)
• Completion Percentage: 66.2% (career high)

Yeah. I mean I watched a pretty good chunk of their games and that coach definitely put him in a position to succeed very often with that Ferrari offense. I think you saw what they really thought about him when they let him walk out the door. 

I am telling you, watch what transpires. I for one will not be surprised at all.