Moton extension. 2 more years, $44M

[ECHornet]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Because you left out the key pertinent CURRENT information. Your mindset is where the Panthers have been stuck for years. You don't pay someone for what they have done in the past, you pay them for what you expect them to do in the future. You shouldn't expect a 31 year old lineman with chronic knee issues who missed time last year and was barely able to practice to continue to hold up.

He missed one game late in the year when it didn’t matter due to his knee(s). If you don’t think the Panthers considered his overall physical health before signing this extension, then you should probably give up following them, because you consider them less capable than many DIII programs. 

[PanthersGTI]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Have you been following the Panthers for long because yeah, that sounds exactly like something the Panthers would do. LOL 

Right......I know some of y'all just hate the FO but that not plausible at all. If they were really worried about his knee to that level they are not giving him 40MM guaranteed. LMAO, get real fellas. 

[Jay Roosevelt]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

on admittedly bum knees

Oh wee mayne 

You do know that most NFL players have to manage chronic wear-and-tear-related injuries once they get into their late 20s, right? This isn't unusual. There's a difference between long-term management and dealing with a major injury.

Do you think they'd have paid him this much if they hadn't had the knee thoroughly examined and were comfortable with what they found? Honestly?

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

He missed one game late in the year when it didn’t matter due to his knee(s). If you don’t think the Panthers considered his overall physical health before signing this extension, then you should probably give up following them, because you consider them less capable than many DIII programs. 

Historically speaking, they sure seem less capable than many DIII programs. I really don't understand when Panthers fans pretend like this has been a competent organization. We've lost more games than any other team since Tepper bought this franchise. That's just the reality of the situation.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

You do know that most NFL players have to manage chronic wear-and-tear-related injuries once they get into their late 20s, right? This isn't unusual. There's a difference between long-term management and dealing with a major injury.

Do you think they'd have paid him this much if they hadn't had the knee thoroughly examined and were comfortable with what they found? Honestly?

Based on our past actions the answer isn't comforting.

[carpanfan96]

12 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

58.2m over the next three years with 54.3m of it being guaranteed. so my bad it's actually 93.2% that's guaranteed. 

Edited 3 hours ago by carpanfan96

[PNW_PantherMan]

4 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

If you don’t think the Panthers considered his overall physical health before signing this extension, then you should probably give up following them, because you consider them less capable than many DIII programs. 

[Jay Roosevelt]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The best indicator is how things have been progressing and last year things took a considerable turn for the worst so obviously we decided to pay him. LOL 

A considerable turn for the worst? Seriously? How do you figure? He played very well and only missed one game due to his knee. And he likely would have played that one had we still been in the playoff hunt.

I'm sorry, but you're reaching here.

[d-dave]

5 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

You do know that most NFL players have to manage chronic wear-and-tear-related injuries once they get into their late 20s, right? This isn't unusual. There's a difference between long-term management and dealing with a major injury.

Do you think they'd have paid him this much if they hadn't had the knee thoroughly examined and were comfortable with what they found? Honestly?

You know how air chair football managers are around here.  They all know better.  Just no one in the NFL has picked up on their incredible acumen yet.

[carpanfan96]

Dude is an elite level RT. He was 3rd in 3rd down pressure rate allowed and top 10 in pretty much every single other stat including advanced ones among RT's for last season. 

[ECHornet]

Well wallow in your misery together, I guess. I think Dan has made some nice moves since taking over and we seem headed in the right direction. Rebuilt OL/WR rooms and now DL seems on the uptick.
 

I’ll just let y’all go on pretending the extension $ would magically net us a Penei Sewell-caliber RT this offseason. 

Edited 3 hours ago by ECHornet

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

A considerable turn for the worst? Seriously? How do you figure? He played very well and only missed one game due to his knee. And he likely would have played that one had we still been in the playoff hunt.

I'm sorry, but you're reaching here.

While basically not practicing. These things usually continue progressing as long as the guy keeps playing. Do you really think grappling with other jumbo super athletes for 60 minutes once a week is improving chronic knee issues? Let's just be realistic here.

He will get some improvement with his knees once he stops playing and sheds 75 pounds. As long as he keeps playing and carrying 300+ pounds they're gonna keep getting worse. That's just the reality of life for a biological creature.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, d-dave said:

You know how air chair football managers are around here.  They all know better.  Just no one in the NFL has picked up on their incredible acumen yet.

To be fair, you can't do any worse than 32nd out of 32 since Tepper bought the team. You or me could've been calling the shots and we couldn't have done any worse than last.

[Waldo]

Morgan just keeps disappointing. should have just ran the year and see how his knee holds up.