Xavier Legette fuging sucks

[jb2288]

Just now, OnlyPantherFaninMaine said:

XL just doesn’t belong on the outside. Really not sure where we fits at the moment but it’s clear he’s not a natural. 

I think he could benefit from not starting and getting 14-18 snaps a game both run and pass. His only goal on those snaps should be max effort and attention to detail. That’s your role until you get it figured out and can be trusted. 
 

I can understand not rushing Jimmy out there but if XL isn’t even going to give effort blocking his ass needs to sit. Tmac and Hunter starting with JHJ seeing what he can do until Coker is back. Bring in an extra TE and feed Chubba. We can be a better team without him at this moment in time. 

[Jackie Lee]

12 minutes ago, Castavar said:

This is yet another instance where we were right yet again. DON'T TRADE UP FOR A FUGGIN WR THAT DIDN'T BREAKOUT UNTIL YEAR 5!! The red flags were there, just like the red flags were there with Bryce if ANYBODY watched his game gainst LSU. These motherfuggers get paid millions to scout, yet we would be better off had they just let us take over the draft. At least we wouldn't pick long snappers over Trey Smith (who everybody was clamoring for on the huddle to take a chance on him), or DJ fuggin Johnson, or Legette when McConkey was the more proven WR in college and it showed in the tape, or a a fuggin 5'9 QB over CJ Stroud who sliced through a historically elite defense in Georgia TWICE. 

Hey there are still maybe 3 people here that think tepppers coaches and scouts are somehow smarter than us take it easy

[CRA]

23 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

You can’t be serious rn. Yes the receivers let him down, did you even watch the game? Bryce played horrible, the WRs outside of TMac played horrible, the LBs player horrible, coaching was horrible. The difference between me and you is you want to pin everything on one player. EVERYTHING. IS. BAD. 

No, the WRs didn’t let him down.   XL not getting his feet down on a ball he should have doesn’t fulfill the narrative his WR let him down.  Every WR group, for every QB is out there playing imperfect games . 

Bryce Young doesn’t fit Dave’s offense.  Just like he didn’t fit Franks.  Technically, that is the orgs faults.  I have spoken about that fact through great protest every season since we drafted him.  So I’m not putting everything on Bryce.  I can talk about square pegs and round holes all day.   End of the day, the simple fix, is Bryce.  

Bryce is the biggest factor in why everyone sucks.  He does the opposite of what you want your QB to do.  He lowers everything, for everybody.  He doesn’t make people better. 

[Proudiddy]

2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him traded, and not for a lot. 

let him go to San Fran LA or something where they can scheme him open. 

He's not a wide receiver. 

I’ve said it in other threads.  He belongs in the NFL, but we aren’t using him correctly.  I’ll give him the rest of this season to see how it pans out, but then again, it’s also hard to judge him because we don’t have a guy who can get him the ball in his areas of strength.  I know some compared him to DK when he came out, which is possibly an apt comparison, but with a noodle armed middle schooler at QB, it’s impossible to know that.  DK isn’t known for being ultra agile and making ridiculous, ballerina-tight rope catches.  DK is a force of nature.  A big body guy who is freakishly athletic and relies greatly on strength and straight-line speed.  That’s how I see XL at best.  At worst, I envisioned him as a bigger version of Deebo.  Again, a guy that isn’t ultra agile or quick, but big, strong, physical, and fast, but as you mentioned, Deebo worked because they were great at figuring out how to get the ball in his hands in creative ways and at scheming him open on routes.  In my estimation, none of these three are route technicians.  But the way DK and Deebo developed, that gave me hope for what XL could or can be.  I still believe he can be that dominant, but with Bryce, he is not in an offense that will foster that kind of development.

It’s my belief that just like in the preseason, when the guy pulling the trigger can’t get guys the ball in their preferred spots, it not only hinders immediate results, but it also makes it impossible to evaluate what we have.  I would like to see what XL can develop into, but as long as they keep trotting Bryce out there, that domino effect fugs everything else up.

[Proudiddy]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

No, the WRs didn’t let him down.   XL not getting his feet down on a ball he should have doesn’t fulfill the narrative his WR let him down. 

Bryce Young doesn’t fit Dave’s offense.  Just like he didn’t fit Franks.  Technically, that is the orgs faults.  I have spoken about that fact through great protest every season since we drafted him.  So I’m not putting everything on Bryce.  I can talk about square pegs and round holes all day.   End of the day, the simple fix, is Bryce.  

Bryce is the biggest factor in why everyone sucks.  He does the opposite of what you want your QB to do.  He lowers everything, for everybody.  He doesn’t make people better. 

This.  And also, to counter jb, a prime example that all his receivers didn’t let him down - Renfrow straight cooked his matchup at LEAST twice today, and on both of those plays, Bryce threw a horribly inaccurate pass and turned what would’ve been at minimum a 20+ yard gain and at best been easy TDs.  Renfrow did his part.  Even the PI Tet drew - imagine if we had a QB that had enough arm strength to put that pass ahead of Tet and gave him a chance to run under it.  Bryce fuging sucks.  Period.

[flagfootballcoach28]

40 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

His intellect? I can see who lives in the city or suburbs just from these comments. A lot of prejudice is oozing through here with this idea that everyone from the country are a bunch of bumbling idiots. 
 

As I learned from my boss who was recently fired, pretending you’re the smartest person in the room doesn’t make you the smartest person in the room. You’ve literally never met the guy, yet make presumptions based on select publications of him and what he does in the offseason. 

How ironic. Only one being prejudice is you by judging people from the suburbs. I could care less about the accent or where he’s from. Never once mentioned that. I’m judging him based on what I’ve seen of him for the past few years on and off the field. 

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

I’ve said it in other threads.  He belongs in the NFL, but we aren’t using him correctly.  I’ll give him the rest of this season to see how it pans out, but then again, it’s also hard to judge him because we don’t have a guy who can get him the ball in his areas of strength.  I know some compared him to DK when he came out, which is possibly an apt comparison, but with a noodle armed middle schooler at QB, it’s impossible to know that.  DK isn’t known for being ultra agile and making ridiculous, ballerina-tight rope catches.  DK is a force of nature.  A big body guy who is freakishly athletic and relies greatly on strength and straight-line speed.  That’s how I see XL at best.  At worst, I envisioned him as a bigger version of Deebo.  Again, a guy that isn’t ultra agile or quick, but big, strong, physical, and fast, but as you mentioned, Deebo worked because they were great at figuring out how to get the ball in his hands in creative ways and at scheming him open on routes.  In my estimation, none of these three are route technicians.  But the way DK and Deebo developed, that gave me hope for what XL could or can be.  I still believe he can be that dominant, but with Bryce, he is not in an offense that will foster that kind of development.

It’s my belief that just like in the preseason, when the guy pulling the trigger can’t get guys the ball in their preferred spots, it not only hinders immediate results, but it also makes it impossible to evaluate what we have.  I would like to see what XL can develop into, but as long as they keep trotting Bryce out there, that domino effect fugs everything else up.

XL can literally do nothing that Deebo nor DK can. He doesn't blow by people consistently. He isn't physical after contact. He can't break tackles consistently. He isn't elusive. He cannot catch consistently. He has no sense of body control whatsoever. He loafs on too many reps when he isn't the target. 

It's not an us problem, it is a him problem.

This is the same as TMJ or Mingo or any of the other recent bums. People always say it's us because it's easier than admitting we just wasted another pick and fuged up...again.

I am here to tell you, eventually you will see what a lot of us already basically did last season. He ain't an NFL player.

Just another in a long line of Panthers bad draft picks.

[frankw]

15 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, I am not knocking Renfrow. I think his ceiling is fairly low even in a better situation. He has a lot of rust to knock off to even see if he has anything left in the tank. TBQH, the fact that it was just "us or bust" kind of let's me know that competitive just really isn't there like maybe it once was. Oh well, still better than Legette and some of these other rostered bums.

Did he? I don't recall that. Link?

Why would he be friends with JJ? They never played on the same team.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/panthers-adam-thielen-both-asked-182711572.html

"When I spoke to Thielen in June, I asked him about J.J. McCarthy’s trajectory after missing the 2024 season, before any of these rumors sprouted.

Thielen believes McCarthy is built for big moments and will eventually show the world the skillset that won the Michigan Wolverines a national championship in 2023/2024.

He even said McCarthy could be the “face of the league.”

“I have high expectations for him. I've been able to be around a little bit through some of the time last summer... back in Minnesota, and I think he has the ability to be one of the great quarterbacks this season and the face of this league at some point. You know, I think he's got every tool and intangible that you can have,” Thielen said.

“Obviously, it's a difficult league and it's not gonna just be easy, but I think he has the ability to handle adversity to be able to be big in big moments, as you saw when he was in college. I think he's got a great support staff around him, whether it be the coaches or the trainers.”

Thielen already sounds like McCarthy’s teammate the way he speaks about him.

Maybe he knew something we didn’t in June."

Edited 4 hours ago by frankw

[Chaos]

So he’s Dwayne Jarrett but from the deep woods. Fantastic. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/panthers-adam-thielen-both-asked-182711572.html

Oh yeah, that really is telegraphing the whole situation. Makes me wonder if he gave it an offseason to see if we turned around and then after seeing it all said, "fug this" when there was a way out.

I missed that little blurb. Wow.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, Chaos said:

So he’s Dwayne Jarrett but from the deep woods. Fantastic. 

I gotta be honest, I cannot recall a WR we have drafted recently with so few fundamentals. It's shocking.

[Mage]

Dare I say Devin Funchess was better?

[Bear Hands]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

I gotta be honest, I cannot recall a WR we have drafted recently with so few fundamentals. It's shocking.

No short area burst or quickness, terrible route running, he can't play against zone-D on the outside.  Has never been capable of this, has zero nuance to his game, and why I never bought the argument he's this worthy reach as an X-receiver.  

He's kindergarten Deebo meets Metcalf.  And eats raccoons.  

[Bear Hands]

Just now, Mage said:

Dare I say Devin Funchess was better?

He was.  

David Gettis was better.