Watching 2024 week 1 Cannales Presser again

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Canales is not on the hotseat as of right now. 

If Bryce fails, the plan is for Canales and Morgan to get a QB shot in either the draft or FA. 

We just got prison raped by a 4 win team while looking completely incompetent on both sides of the ball.  I agree he is not on the hotseat yet but he def took a pretty big step towards that line.

 

And lets be honest, we all know how this is going to end so would anyone really be mad if Tepper shitcanned Morgan, DC and Bryce at the end of the year?

[Jon Snow]

29 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

We just got prison raped by a 4 win team while looking completely incompetent on both sides of the ball.  I agree he is not on the hotseat yet but he def took a pretty big step towards that line.

 

And lets be honest, we all know how this is going to end so would anyone really be mad if Tepper shitcanned Morgan, DC and Bryce at the end of the year?

I know I wouldn't. 

[Camp Fodder]

9 hours ago, Newtcase said:

I've never liked this carousel.  GM/Coach/QB carousel that is.  When you cycle through them there's always a scapegoat.  We've had 3 GMs, 7 Head coaches (including interims), and 9 different quarterbacks (starting) since Tepper bought the team.  By and large this has been rotational with coaches inheriting quarterbacks, or GMs inheriting coaches or even worse GMs not picking their coaches.  It's just terrible organizational hierarchy all the time, very dysfunctional.

Hire your GM, let him hire his coach and get the players that coach says he need for his vision.  Create top down accountability.  Cannales was hired to make Bryce look like a good draft pick, if he can't do that then he's failed at the thing he had to have sold himself on.  

Morgan was a head scratcher from day one.  A hold over from the Fitterer mistakes, certainly no history of success as an executive.  Has always felt like a yes man for Tepper or a blindfolded visions of going young everywhere and letting them learn on the job.  Just terrible, terrible organizational vision in a league being dominated by real professionals.

This. If this season goes really bad which unfortunately I think it is, do an actual clean house. Fire the gm and all coaches and trade Bryce (someone will throw a 4th or 5th at him)

[Tbe]

11 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

This. If this season goes really bad which unfortunately I think it is, do an actual clean house. Fire the gm and all coaches and trade Bryce (someone will throw a 4th or 5th at him)

I wish, but I don’t think we can do that. Tepper has a terrible reputation of firing too fast, which means the best candidates stay away from us.

That’s how we ended up with Dave and Dan.

Unfortunately, we need to let those guys play out three full seasons at least before we hit the market again.

 

[Shotgun]

53 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

We just got prison raped by a 4 win team while looking completely incompetent on both sides of the ball.  I agree he is not on the hotseat yet but he def took a pretty big step towards that line.

 

And lets be honest, we all know how this is going to end so would anyone really be mad if Tepper shitcanned Morgan, DC and Bryce at the end of the year?

I hope he does. They are all terrible. I'm ready for a different flavor of terrible. lol

[Waldo]

The entire 'him and Morgan are building the team up for the next QB' take is coming apart already. The failure to bring in meaningful talent at #2 while resigning a washed Dalton will be their fatal mistake. No way to justify those 2 picking the next QB while wasting time on Plumber and Hooker while simultaneously building a D for Evero. By the end of the year they will either limp into the offseason losers regressing or already have lost the locker room. No idea where it falls i  that spectrum but they all should be fired by the end of the season. Hell go fire Evero and Morgan today. 

[KillerKat]

10 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

He was pretty quick to bench Young last time. Problem is he doesn’t have anyone to replace him with, we saw Andy slowed down a lot in just a few games. If he benches Bryce again he’s probably done, we’ll probably see Hooker before we see Bryce again if that happens. 

Dave has this whole nice guy thing but I get the feeling that he hates looking incompetent especially after publicly supporting him all offseason. We probably wouldn’t have seen him last year if Andy didn’t get hurt. 
 

We`re going to have to trade for another QB like a Minshew or someone similar if he decides to bench Bryce again. Dalton is done.

[Waldo]

Just now, KillerKat said:

We`re going to have to trade for another QB like a Minshew or someone similar if he decides to bench Bryce again. Dalton is done.

That's even more distasteful than just playing Young out regardless. I would rather see Hooker play than Morgan trade for enough wins to take us out of QB picking territory. This is a top 5 picking team without a trade. 

[Johnstonny]

I thought it would take around 4-5 games to tell how happy or pissed I'd with the rest of the season.....NOPE!

[KillerKat]

6 minutes ago, Waldo said:

That's even more distasteful than just playing Young out regardless. I would rather see Hooker play than Morgan trade for enough wins to take us out of QB picking territory. This is a top 5 picking team without a trade. 

I would kinda like to see what we got on offense with some sort of competent QB play. Like before Dalton went to poo, the whole offense looked completely different.

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, KillerKat said:

I would kinda like to see what we got on offense with some sort of competent QB play. Like before Dalton went to poo, the whole offense looked completely different.

We should wait until next year unfortunately. The crippling choice would be using very valuable picks on this mess. 

[carpanfan96]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

We just got prison raped by a 4 win team while looking completely incompetent on both sides of the ball.  I agree he is not on the hotseat yet but he def took a pretty big step towards that line.

 

And lets be honest, we all know how this is going to end so would anyone really be mad if Tepper shitcanned Morgan, DC and Bryce at the end of the year?

I wouldn't be mad at another fresh start but the problem is a few fold.

1. When Canales took over the roster talent was awful. 

2. The QB selection was made for him with BY already being here, but he's got leeway to move on from him but this has tied his hands for 2 seasons at little fault of his own. 

3. Tepper already has a poor reputation of being a reactionary owner. 

 

So I think Canales is 100% safe, maybe not so much Morgan but I think they both stay and get a QB pick or FA pickup of their choice and then the seats heat up. 

[mrcompletely11]

12 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

I wouldn't be mad at another fresh start but the problem is a few fold.

1. When Canales took over the roster talent was awful. 

2. The QB selection was made for him with BY already being here, but he's got leeway to move on from him but this has tied his hands for 2 seasons at little fault of his own. 

3. Tepper already has a poor reputation of being a reactionary owner. 

 

So I think Canales is 100% safe, maybe not so much Morgan but I think they both stay and get a QB pick or FA pickup of their choice and then the seats heat up. 

Oh I think he is safe but hasn't shown anything yet.  And please for the love of God draft someone instead of getting a recycled vet.