Tepper is still pulling the strings

[SmokinwithWilly]

28 minutes ago, Tbe said:

I know people who work in there and they say Tepper is never in the building. 

Tepper is just terrible at hiring and that adds up.

He doesn't have to be there for the day to day. It's is he present when its big deal day like trading up to 1, rejecting a Rams ransom for Burns, giving total control to guys with little to no experience in key positions? Dave's few big decisions are more destructive than any day to day meddling could hope to be. 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, Tbe said:

That’s not an easy fix.

We are stuck with DC and DM because we couldn’t get anyone else.

Unfortunately, Tepper has to give those two guys at least three seasons to repair his reputation.

Otherwise, the candidates we need will continue to choose other jobs.

Tepper cannot get anyone worth his salt to work for him. Dave and Dan were his only options. Canales is what I thought he was when he was hired. He's a glorified Pelaton instructor that is just happy to be here.

[Waldo]

3 minutes ago, Tbe said:

That’s not an easy fix.

We are stuck with DC and DM because we couldn’t get anyone else.

Unfortunately, Tepper has to give those two guys at least three seasons to repair his reputation.

Otherwise, the candidates we need will continue to choose other jobs.

We couldn't get anyone after being tied to Young and pissing away too any picks...one a first overall.

The entire he 'fires to fast so he had to settle' was always BS. It was because he wouldn't let Young fail and wanted to build around him so we ended up with the dregs at GM and HC. He in fact didn't fire either Morgan or Evero which has turned into the mistake. If he let so eone else come in and proclaim Young a mistake or bring in competition and not friendly Dalton than it would have been different options IMO. Those guys walked when they saw what Morgan and DC signed up for and that's why they are a high quality people. 

[Bear Hands]

I've given Canales some runway.  Still will for about half the season to thoroughly judge, but the way he calls the run game is infuriating and vanilla.  I don't think he wants or is trying to have a diverse running attack.  

Dan Morgan though...the 2025 draft looks promising but the 2024 draft returns look like a disaster.

• 1.01 - Caleb Williams/None (traded it for Bryce the year prior)
• Late 1st - traded up for XL (lol) Over - Keon, Ladd, DeJean
• 2nd - Traded around and took Brooks who was injured over Sainristil, Frazier, Kneeland, Rosengarten
• 3rd - Trevin - I'm finally willing to express some major concern but Rozeboom blows and doesn't help him

At that point you don't need to look at the rest lol

[d-dave]

3 minutes ago, Tbe said:

That’s not an easy fix.

We are stuck with DC and DM because we couldn’t get anyone else.

Unfortunately, Tepper has to give those two guys at least three seasons to repair his reputation.

Otherwise, the candidates we need will continue to choose other jobs.

It's easy for us fans to toss the baby out with the bath water immediately.  Tepper created a shitshow.  He's been extremely quick to fire guys who aren't producing and continuing to have the same result no matter who the coach is.  If Tepper goes full nuclear today, no one half way decent will touch the Panthers while he's the owner.

That's just the reality, and @Tbe points it out well.  You need to give these guys time to show their incompetence after you gave them all the rope you could.

I think Morgan and Canales will get to draft a guy if Bryce continues to play like Sunday the rest of the season, but if there aren't early returns, then we could see it all blown up before the end of the '26 Season.  I don't think anyone would fault him if year three, even with a rookie, goes terribly.

That being said, Evero has been given more than enough opportunity.  I'm tired of the excuses, this is year three.  Either you get it, or you need to get out.  I have no idea if Evero has any (coaching, he seems like a really sincere dude) redeeming qualities, but his time here hasn't been great.  

[csx]

People always want a dramatic explanation for things much more simple.

[csx]

4 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

I've given Canales some runway.  Still will for about half the season to thoroughly judge, but the way he calls the run game is infuriating and vanilla.  I don't think he wants or is trying to have a diverse running attack.  

Dan Morgan though...the 2025 draft looks promising but the 2024 draft returns look like a disaster.

• 1.01 - Caleb Williams/None (traded it for Bryce the year prior)
• Late 1st - traded up for XL (lol) Over - Keon, Ladd, DeJean
• 2nd - Traded around and took Brooks who was injured over Sainristil, Frazier, Kneeland, Rosengarten
• 3rd - Trevin - I'm finally willing to express some major concern but Rozeboom blows and doesn't help him

At that point you don't need to look at the rest lol

All these defenders were solid until getting to Everos current situation 

[PleaseCutStewart]

I actually think Tepper is trying to be more hands off than he was under Rhule & Reich. Unfortunately the dude keeps hiring bums like Canales...

[Bear Hands]

Just now, csx said:

All these defenders were solid until getting to Everos current situation 

Solid is stretching it.  Rozeboom frustrated the hell out of Rams fans.  Not as bad as Reeder, but close.  LB was a known issue going into this week and it showed in a huge way.  And Wallace was a high ceiling but super raw LB prospect.  

Moehrig's slipups were surprising.  

But yeah, Evero's playcalling and personnel deployment is super annoying.  He likes playing light in the box which is nonsense given who we brought into our front-7.  

[CRA]

18 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

The easiest fix is to clean house and hire a respected team builder. Tepper should not even set foot in the facility. 

yeah, true house cleaning is what should happen.  But it's going to be REALLY hard to do that given qualified people don't want to come here.  We saw that.  Tepper even hired folks to help him.  That's why we ended up w/ Dan and Canales. 

I don't think Tepper really meddles in the day to day really.   I just think he hires bad people.   Or more so, he creates environments where things don't mesh well. 

I think soccer has been easier for Tepper's approach and to find success.  It's less complicated to a degree.   Less parts to get on the same page.    

[45catfan]

I'm sure glad we chose Wallace over Payton Wilson.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

yeah, true house cleaning is what should happen.  But it's going to be REALLY hard to do that given qualified people don't want to come here.  We saw that.  Tepper even hired folks to help him.  That's why we ended up w/ Dan and Canales. 

I don't think Tepper really meddles in the day to day really.   I just think he hires bad people.   Or more so, he creates environments where things don't mesh well. 

I think soccer has been easier for Tepper's approach and to find success.  It's less complicated to a degree.   Less parts to get on the same page.    

Tepper hired a firm the he ignored. He had Morgan in all the GM interviews for goodness sake. 

[Waldo]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

yeah, true house cleaning is what should happen.  But it's going to be REALLY hard to do that given qualified people don't want to come here.  We saw that.  Tepper even hired folks to help him.  That's why we ended up w/ Dan and Canales. 

I don't think Tepper really meddles in the day to day really.   I just think he hires bad people.   Or more so, he creates environments where things don't mesh well. 

I think soccer has been easier for Tepper's approach and to find success.  It's less complicated to a degree.   Less parts to get on the same page.    

Give those people their room to work without stupid Tepper strings attached to coaches or players and the money will be enough IMO. They only decline when they know they can't make it work with the other stuff he is pushing. So far we still have our top 5 pick and so little to tie to anyone next year at the rate they are going.

It's a big if for Tepper because this cycle was always about proping up the unprepared while keeping people around that should have gone after 2023. 

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Tepper hired a firm the he ignored. He had Morgan in all the GM interviews for goodness sake. 

Kinda of like when Hurney went on a GM search as a consultant and the best candidate he found was himself, lol!