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Do You Agree With These Excuses?


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8 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

With as many people here that seem to agree with you, in a strange way, I hope you are right.  Going to be hard for you guys to root for this team if they do manage to turn it around since you all seem to hate Bryce and think we are all garbage.

I've said repeatedly that I hope I'm wrong but Bryce keeps proving me right. He seems like a legitimately decent guy who would be easy to root for he just sucks at playing QB in the NFL because he doesn't have the prerequisite talent level.

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24 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I've said repeatedly that I hope I'm wrong but Bryce keeps proving me right. He seems like a legitimately decent guy who would be easy to root for he just sucks at playing QB in the NFL because he doesn't have the prerequisite talent level.

Doesn't have the prerequisite talent level.  That's funny.

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Seen a lot of talk about “cull everyone, Bryce never was it”. Maybe it’s the inevitable outcome. Maybe let’s play a few more games?

The mistakes on Sunday weren’t a result of Bryce’s physical limitations. Bryce’s decision making was a problem which depending on where you sit might be a bigger issue.
 

That’s what the stat sites are meting out. A lot went wrong outside of Bryce. A center that can’t snap. A second year receiver that doesn’t know his routes, can’t manage sidelines and isn’t cutting back to the qb on a scramble (a cardinal sin). Plays not getting in on time, resulting in awkwardly timed snaps. That’s coaching.

And before I’m labeled a Bryce apologist for not participating in this circle jerk of misery, the 4th down decision to throw it away and the fumble are inexplicable. Those are unacceptable mistakes for any third year player.

 

 

 

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I said this before the draft. His NFL resume says I was right.

He had the prerequisites.  At the time of the draft, a lot of people considered him the top choice, and if not, the clear #2 choice.  Claiming he wasn't qualified when he has the accolades he has, and has won at every level except the NFL (he wasn't there yet, no one can see the future.  People around here like to look back with 20/20) is a ridiculous take in my opinion.

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15 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

He had the prerequisites.  At the time of the draft, a lot of people considered him the top choice, and if not, the clear #2 choice.  Claiming he wasn't qualified when he has the accolades he has, and has won at every level except the NFL (he wasn't there yet, no one can see the future.  People around here like to look back with 20/20) is a ridiculous take in my opinion.

He wasn't and those people were wrong. Winning and putting up numbers at lower levels does not always translate to the NFL. There's no shortage of great HS players who didn't translate to college and great college players who didn't translate to the NFL. It looked very obvious to me on the college field that Bryce didn't have NFL level physical talent and that's what's playing out at the NFL level.

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I think the worst issue is coaching. Countless bad snaps, XL not getting his feet in or trying on runs plays, our centre being down field when he didn't need to be. All seem to be from poor coaching for me. I believe Canales is to soft to rip the players a new one when the fug up.

Plus I honestly believe that Canales is slow getting his plays in giving Bryce less time to diagnose and adjust to the defence. Don't worry I could of head butted Bryce for that fumble and the 4th down throw aways but the other plays are explainable to me 

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Extrapolate that with every QB for that matter. I guarantee you there's quite a bit of missed opportunities and yards left on the field for everyone.

Many NFL QBs deal with WRs not putting in A+ effort, subpar o-line play and other deficiencies. The great ones are able to rise above these issues and create opportunities for plays. Guys like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes can both play in and out of structure, as well as find ways to get yards when things break down and mask mistakes by throwing guys open, creating opportunities from nothing, etc.

Bryce Young has only shown he's able to make things happen when the rest of the team picks up his slack. Very rarely does he create those opportunities himself.

When this is a consistent pattern year after year with Bryce where he shows up lackluster, it's a concern. This is year three and he should be elevating the team as a first overall pick this franchise traded up for. 

He was far from elevating anyone against JAX. In fact, he needed others to elevate and create for him.

Excuses may be fine for a rookie, but this is year three for the first overall pick. Not looking good so far.

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5 hours ago, Jacabee said:

Seen a lot of talk about “cull everyone, Bryce never was it”. Maybe it’s the inevitable outcome. Maybe let’s play a few more games?

The mistakes on Sunday weren’t a result of Bryce’s physical limitations. Bryce’s decision making was a problem which depending on where you sit might be a bigger issue.
 

That’s what the stat sites are meting out. A lot went wrong outside of Bryce. A center that can’t snap. A second year receiver that doesn’t know his routes, can’t manage sidelines and isn’t cutting back to the qb on a scramble (a cardinal sin). Plays not getting in on time, resulting in awkwardly timed snaps. That’s coaching.

And before I’m labeled a Bryce apologist for not participating in this circle jerk of misery, the 4th down decision to throw it away and the fumble are inexplicable. Those are unacceptable mistakes for any third year player.

 

 

 

Did you see Young miss the walk in TD to Renfrow?

He literally doesn't have it. That's an easy throw for an NFL QB.

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