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The version of Baker Mayfield in Tampa Bay now was never going to be that here. He got a very heavy portion of humble pie both with the Browns and us. That was a driving force in changing his career. And at the end of the day the Bucs are unfortunately a well ran organization. But Baker had already flashed his physical gifts and potential even with the lowly Browns. He just had to get out of his own way and drop the immature meathead crap.

Too bad for Geno Smith and Pete Carroll. That wall comes fast. They are both past their expiration date. And as of recently some of Geno's comments sound like a guy rather full of himself. The league will be glad to humble you.

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15 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Its a chance a quality time together before Christmas. I hate giving Tepper anything but it's not always about te money when it comes to what matters. So we will spend a couple of days in Charlotte and sample some good food and have a few laughs at the teams expense. We are sitting close enough that I can heckle Tepper if he's near the bench so there's that.

Good perspective. Watch out...you might get a free drank.

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