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Official Week 3: Panthers vs. Falcons Gameday Thread

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XL was questionable with a hammy and limited all week in practice. Sounds like it was giving him enough issues to keep him out.

Week off might be good for him to get a fire lit under him as he recovers. Jimmy Horn Jr being inactive is... a choice. Game plan looks to be run the ball all day.

David Moore filling in for XL. Brycen Tremayne to get more reps.

ALL ABOARD THE TREMAYNE TRAIN

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Hunter Renfrow game!  Clearly Hunter Renfrow has pleaded to the football gods for all the Clemson football juju to be sucked from Clemson and enter his body for the year!  It’s science!  19 receptions today for 20 yards but 15 TDs. 

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I'm starting to thin Horn Jr is going to be one of those mini camp wonders who never is anything meaningful, and I really liked what I saw/heard about him from early camp reports too.

But if he can't even get a jersey the week we're down one of our other WRs, then I'm not sure there's much hope for him on the horizon 

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8 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I'm starting to thin Horn Jr is going to be one of those mini camp wonders who never is anything meaningful, and I really liked what I saw/heard about him from early camp reports too.

But if he can't even get a jersey the week we're down one of our other WRs, then I'm not sure there's much hope for him on the horizon 

You can only really play him in the slot.  Hard to  activate Hunter and Horn when a big body is already down.  

 

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7 minutes ago, CRA said:

You can only really play him in the slot.  Hard to  activate Hunter and Horn when a big body is already down.  

 

Or you could look at it as the only outside speedster option is down, and dressing Horn would allow us to still have someone running some go-routes on the outside to try and keep some safety help deep instead of shading over to T-Mac's side of the field on every snap.

Even if there is a 0% interest in actually throwing the deep ball to Horn Jr on those plays, at least it would just be useful for keeping the defense honest.

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5 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Or you could look at it as the only outside speedster option is down, and dressing Horn would allow us to still have someone running some go-routes on the outside to try and keep some safety help deep instead of shading over to T-Mac's side of the field on every snap.

Even if there is a 0% interest in actually throwing the deep ball to Horn Jr on those plays, at least it would just be useful for keeping the defense honest.

I don't think it's all our WR's that are limiting those options downfield.....

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7 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Or you could look at it as the only outside speedster option is down, and dressing Horn would allow us to still have someone running some go-routes on the outside to try and keep some safety help deep instead of shading over to T-Mac's side of the field on every snap.

Even if there is a 0% interest in actually throwing the deep ball to Horn Jr on those plays, at least it would just be useful for keeping the defense honest.

Can't wait to see Horn beat the corner by 10 yards and Bryce throw it 5 yards short allowing the corner to catch up and break it up

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8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think it's all our WR's that are limiting those options downfield.....

Oh I get it, but even with Bryce's noodle arm, if you have a burner on the outside who is beating his man down the field with zero safety help, even Bryce can heave it 55-60 yards to him if he gets the time in the pocket, so you still need to keep a safety with an eye on those routes when he's on the field.

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      Oh I see what you meant by memory. I will trust my memory, I have looked a a lot of those ball charts for Bryce and they trend a general pattern. They thing that has changed that I have noticed more recently is the reduction in the bunching of behind or at  the LOS passes over to his right.  Aside from the quantity of throws recently since the running game has become a more dominant factor. 
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      Yes but you basically said you are going from a quick skim of those charts without doing the same for Bryce and/or Andy. So you are going memory vs. snapshots. That's not going to be a very comprehensive analysis.
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