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Official Week 3: Panthers vs. Falcons Gameday Thread


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Decided last minute to to take family to game.  Cheap tickets sec 134 (which is kindof sad in of itself) made the 10 hour roundtrip and glad as hell I did.

 

- Defense played out of their mind.  Mike Jack smithwade looking at you

-Penix is fuging terrible, not worried about him at all

- Falcons, wtf were you doing, running when you should be passing and vice versa.  Why the fug didnt you run the ball on us? 

- Canales, I get you are green but damn man tighten up your time management 

- We won so not going to bag on Bryce too much but yeah man to argue he isnt limited is lol funny

- We finally have a kicker and that feels kindof good all things considered

- someone earlier mentioned tepper and we didnt see him in the box the entire game, not sure what thats about

-Chubba, Sanders and Tet took some absolute monster shots and popped back up, not sure how they do it because it sounds horrific.  Chubba took one right in front of us and he got up laughing.  wow

 

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12 hours ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

For once, it would be nice to develop a guy behind a vet for a year, but that would require patience 

This. I wouldn't mind this approach. Get a vet and draft someone within the first 3 rounds to develop. It doesn't have to be a first round pick. Just make sure they meet the physical requirements pleass.

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1 hour ago, CPF4LIFE said:

This. I wouldn't mind this approach. Get a vet and draft someone within the first 3 rounds to develop. It doesn't have to be a first round pick. Just make sure they meet the physical requirements pleass.

I don't think it's patience anymore. We just don't have players so you gotta draft players who can have an impact fairly quickly because of how bad the roster is.

I agree with the idea of taking some developmental guys but we have to work our way back into that shape, roster wise.

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47 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Damn. Glad to see the young guys flashing.

Jones and Wonnum are JAG/JAG+ players. We need Scourton and Princely to pan out. That would be huge for our future.

We also need them to pan out because we can't afford to blow more second round picks. We've wasted so many day 2 picks in the past 5 years we're already extremely short on talent. 

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On 9/21/2025 at 5:44 PM, frankw said:

What you described in the quote is coddling.

And nobody is asking for Cam 2.0. That's ridiculous and you know it.

I don't know.  I keep hearing people saying he needs to start playing a number 1 overall pick.  Some hold him to the fan's standard of what a number 1 pick should be playing like and that after 3 years (even though it's only 2 years and 3 games), he should be producing as such.

You call it coddling.  I call it teaching and bringing a guy along who had a horrible start to his career and a clusteruck of a 1st year.  If Canales is coddling him, then he should keep doing it because it's working and Bryce has been and is improving.

You don't throw a guy into the deep end of the pool and watch him almost drown, only to throw him back in to see if he's learning to swim yet.

Again, not saying he's earning a 2nd contract but don't act like a lot of people point out how Cam started his career as the 1st pick and how Bryce hasn't done that.

That's ridiculous and you know it.

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22 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I don't know.  I keep hearing people saying he needs to start playing a number 1 overall pick.  Some hold him to the fan's standard of what a number 1 pick should be playing like and that after 3 years (even though it's only 2 years and 3 games), he should be producing as such.

You call it coddling.  I call it teaching and bringing a guy along who had a horrible start to his career and a clusteruck of a 1st year.  If Canales is coddling him, then he should keep doing it because it's working and Bryce has been and is improving.

You don't throw a guy into the deep end of the pool and watch him almost drown, only to throw him back in to see if he's learning to swim yet.

Again, not saying he's earning a 2nd contract but don't act like a lot of people point out how Cam started his career as the 1st pick and how Bryce hasn't done that.

That's ridiculous and you know it.

There is a whole world of middle ground between Jimmy Clausen and Cam Newton sir.

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11 minutes ago, frankw said:

There is a whole world of middle ground between Jimmy Clausen and Cam Newton sir.

Uh yeah...your point?

We're talking about the expectations of a 1st overall pick because you said no one was asking Bryce to be Cam 2.0, aka a number 1 pick that comes out of the gate with a large amount of success.  I disagreed and said people are.

I have no idea what Jimmy Clausen has to do with that.

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3 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Uh yeah...your point?

We're talking about the expectations of a 1st overall pick because you said no one was asking Bryce to be Cam 2.0, aka a number 1 pick that comes out of the gate with a large amount of success.  I disagreed and said people are.

I have no idea what Jimmy Clausen has to do with that.

Bryce Young's current YPA - 5.3

Jimmy Clausen's YPA in 2010 - 5.2

Only rookie project Cam Ward is worse than Bryce so far.

It is not unfair or unrealistic to expect our #1 overall pick to do much better than that in his third season. And no that does not mean he has to be Cam Newton.

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6 hours ago, frankw said:

Bryce Young's current YPA - 5.3

Jimmy Clausen's YPA in 2010 - 5.2

Only rookie project Cam Ward is worse than Bryce so far.

It is not unfair or unrealistic to expect our #1 overall pick to do much better than that in his third season. And no that does not mean he has to be Cam Newton.

Comparing a random stat to another rookie QB has nothing to do with the current subject.  Tom Brady had a 6.0 YPA his rookie year.  I hope you're not using one stat to define success of a QB?

It's not a problem to want him to do better based on where he was drafted although I still contend it doesn't matter after the fact.  It doesn't matter if we're talking about Cam Newton, Tom Brady, Russel Wilson or any other QB.  It makes little difference once you're in the NFL.  Nobody gets a ring for where they were drafted.  

Higher draft picks will get a little more time in most cases as teams want to make sure they've exhausted all avenues before they admit a draft pick can't play.  Other teams might pick them up thinking it wasn't the player but the organization and/or other coaches that caused the player not to succeed. 

It's people's expectations that are wrong.  If we could go back and redo all the draft and put guys in the correct draft spot based on how well they played in the NFL, that would be nice.  Then your argument would make some sense.  People assume that where a player was drafted is a statement on how good that player is when the reality is there is a lot more luck than skill in drafting.

If Coker turns into a pro bowl receiver and XL becomes a bust nobody cares except fans and the media.

What we really should say is it's not too much to expect a player who has started at QB for a team over the last 2 years to be better than he currently shows.  

Don't compare 1st round picks.  Compare starting QB's in the NFL.

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