NextGen Passing Chart - Week 3

[45catfan]

3 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

 

So what you are saying is we are in trouble if we face a team that plays coverage and does not send extra players regularly.

[jb2288]

2 hours ago, frankw said:

 

Completing passes more than 5 yards is now akin to throwing into double coverage "downfield" and "throwin bombs".

Guys. You are in a cult. Full stop.

And here comes Frank right on cue. Is “cult” your new buzzword this week? If you take time to read the post you’ll see the discussion was over 15 yard and plus passes. But I know you prefer to paint your own picture then cry about people moving the goalposts when called out on your slop.  

[jb2288]

1 hour ago, csx said:

Time to take your nap

Let him get it out. He’ll tantrum out, go quiet for a bit, then come up with the new insult for the next week. 

[mav1234]

32 minutes ago, Icege said:

Josh Allen's passing chart vs. Miami on Thursday night looked similar. One pass over 15yds attempted.

Ehh. Allen can and does go deep when he needs to. Bryce Young can't seem to regularly this year. I don't care about him throwing 40 yards like Allen can, I just want him to push the ball past the sticks more. I don't think deep bombs are all that necessary (nor do they predict success ultimately).

Its also not one passing chart but 100 passes this year I go by, and his overall history as a passer. If you look at Allen's play through his career you don't wonder if he can threaten a defense at different levels.

[Icege]

8 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Ehh. Allen can and does go deep when he needs to. Bryce Young can't seem to regularly this year. I don't care about him throwing 40 yards like Allen can, I just want him to push the ball past the sticks more. I don't think deep bombs are all that necessary (nor do they predict success ultimately).

Its also not one passing chart but 100 passes this year I go by, and his overall history as a passer. If you look at Allen's play through his career you don't wonder if he can threaten a defense at different levels.

And we've seen Bryce go deep as well. He doesn't have the cannon or the legs that Allen has, sure, but the fact that the two put up the same passing charts in wins but nobody is dogging out Allen because he isn't "too smol" says all that needs to be said.

Especially when combined with the fact that his (Bryce's) chart last week and it was still an L:

Edited 2 hours ago by Icege

[Panthering]

We have zero deep threat WRs right now. We aren't going to see many bombs until either XL steps up into a deep threat role or we get someone who can actually do it. The game clearly didn't call for any of that yesterday either, Bryce did all he needed to do to see out a win. I'm fine with that. 

[mav1234]

1 minute ago, Icege said:

And we've seen Bryce go deep as well. He doesn't have the cannon or the legs that Allen has, sure, but the fact that the two put up the same passing charts in wins but nobody is dogging out Allen because he isn't "too smol" says all that needs to be said.

Especially when combined with the fact that his chart last week and it was still an L:

Allen isn't a problem for the Bills the way Bryce feels like he might be for us. There's nothing wrong with taking what the defense gives you but in that game alone Allen basically exceeded Bryce's completions over 10 yards all season.

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Icege said:

Josh Allen's passing chart vs. Miami on Thursday night looked similar. One pass over 15yds attempted.

Sure but that’s just one week cherry pick that means what? 

defenses have to respect every inch of the field with Allen because what he has people he can and will do with his arm 

opponents cheat coverage and don’t respect routes which alters play potential for us….which we steady talk about Bryce being unable to push teams off us 

[TD alt]

4 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

What’s the number one thing you need for a vertical passing game? I’d argue QB is third on that list and we don’t have the first two. 

We have at least two receivers that can get vertical. If you're suggesting to me that all our receivers can do is get 10 yards down the field, I reject that notion.

[panthers55]

51 minutes ago, Icege said:

And we've seen Bryce go deep as well. He doesn't have the cannon or the legs that Allen has, sure, but the fact that the two put up the same passing charts in wins but nobody is dogging out Allen because he isn't "too smol" says all that needs to be said.

Especially when combined with the fact that his (Bryce's) chart last week and it was still an L:

You notice is it always the same people throwing shade. I didn't want Bryce when we drafted him but I am a Panthers fan first so I will support the team and its players even if they aren't my favorite.  And this negativity with a justification of not accepting mediocrity is a load of crap. No one likes losing and not contending. No one celebrates 9th place. But it isn't like their bitching will change anything so why the endless complaints that most of us don't want to hear. Trust me we all get they don't like Bryce. But until he is gone he is what we have for better or worse. So I say root for his success and keep their crap to themselves. I don't know about you but it is only week 3 and getting old already. Sorry to hijack your post.

Rant off.....

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, TD alt said:

We have at least two receivers that can get vertical. If you're suggesting to me that all our receivers can do is get 10 yards down the field, I reject that notion.

In 2 seconds how many can get deep? That how much time he had if you are paying attention.

[panthers55]

29 minutes ago, CRA said:

Sure but that’s just one week cherry pick that means what? 

defenses have to respect every inch of the field with Allen because what he has people he can and will do with his arm 

opponents cheat coverage and don’t respect routes which alters play potential for us….which we steady talk about Bryce being unable to push teams off us 

Josh is like any quarterback in the league. He takes what the defense gives him. Just like Bryce. The difference is Josh is better running and throwing on the run. His big plays are often not scripted and a result of a good running game something we are still working on. Buffalo has better personnel than us across the board. Makes it much easier to win. And about that false narrative about Bryce can't handle pressure. He did a great job Sunday against a heavy run and pass blitz. Which is why the Vikings got crushed and we crushed the Dirty Birds. Clearly the narrative of he can't throw downfield is being championed by those who see but don't really understand football. Otherwise you would see all the audibles Bryce called as he stepped up to the line and saw the heavy blitz. Receivers broke off routes and he checked down many times as he should have. Stop looking for things to complain about and enjoy the win. There may not be too many.

Edited 45 minutes ago by panthers55

[electro's horse]

11 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

In 2 seconds how many can get deep? That how much time he had if you are paying attention.

That two second sideline fade was Bryce’s best “deep” pass last year, especially to Thielen from the slot position. 

That only worked tho because Thielen would go in motion and tell Bryce if the safety was off or not. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

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