panthers offense 30 of 32 in yards per play

[pantherclaw]

Defenses are playing us not to get beat deep.  Which is hiw most defenses play. Dont want the playmaker to get behind them. 

Of course, every defense is different based on scheme and players.  

The offense has struggled to get going in general, so I really don't care where it's rated in yards per play. 

Just win, baby. 

[fanpanther]

1 hour ago, frankw said:

Hmm let's see. Listen to a random graph or believe my own eyes which show poor ball placement and way too many 50/50 balls across 30+ career starts.

Also I've lost count how many passes I've seen Bryce throw downfield to the sideline that were heading out of bounds and the receiver had to make an acrobatic move just to attempt to haul it in. But more often than not that throw has been an incompletion.

BTW it's also not lost on me that the biggest general team fluffers here will waste absolutely no time in switching that up and throwing anyone necessary under the bus in order to prop up #9.

one thing that gets me with the diehars bryce supporters is i feel like his supporters are more diehard then cam or jakes were and they both did things for thr panthers.  young has done nothing and still has these diehard supporters. 

[Icege]

Chart supports anti-Bryce narrative: "The data is conclusive."

Chart counters anti-Bryce narrative: "Every statistician is a liar and a thief."

 

Hoo boy

[strato]

6 hours ago, CRA said:

Last year folks were gaslighting that Bryce was the best deep passer in the NFL despite not ever making plays downfield 

NOW, he has A+++++++ arm strength one notch down from Brett Favre S Tier arm strength? 

And people complain people are Bryce “haters” for arguing against all this type wildness lol. 
 

 

No kidding. Too much fan analysis and not enough detached analysis. 
Hell I even said he could make do if he handled all the mechanical and footwork issues, but still get attacked. For lack of objectivity. 

Edited 14 hours ago by strato

[mav1234]

3 hours ago, Icege said:

Get the young guys to start holding on to some of those deep passes (at a catchable rate on par with the best at the moment, in spite of the misinfo some fans like to spread to keep their agenda going) and those yards per play jump.

Bryce has only thrown like 7 balls 20 yards or more and has 1 completion.  This is out of 114 attempts  He is among the lowest in the NFL in intended air yards per completion, almost 2 yards lower than last year. He has had 5 drops (2 to TMac, 1 to XL, 1 to Sanders, 1 to  Chuba) , which puts him slightly above the league average by percent, but pretty close to it (4.5% vs 4.1% or so). 

He's also above the league average in "bad throws" (based on PFF). 

I'm not entirely sure how they're measuring EPA per pass attempt there but according to https://sumersports.com/teams/offensive/ we are 26th in EPA per pass play. 

Given all that, the idea that the problem is our young receivers not holding onto the ball feels a little incorrect, tho TMac needs to work on that (some of those aren't deep).  Bryce has barely given them any opportunities deep.

[strato]

5 hours ago, Icege said:

Chart supports anti-Bryce narrative: "The data is conclusive."

Chart counters anti-Bryce narrative: "Every statistician is a liar and a thief."

 

Hoo boy

I hope you understand that this Anti Bryce thing as you call it is really a pro Panthers thing.
I think I can safely use we. We want the best for the Panthers. 
As far as this other post saying ‘Anti’ Bryce people do misinformation.. you mean like going all in on “Renfro should have caught” that poorly thrown ball? I guess it was week 1. And calling it a drop. Comical btw. 
I wonder, did you call that out or let it slide because it aligned with your agenda? 

[Icege]

11 hours ago, mav1234 said:

Bryce has only thrown like 7 balls 20 yards or more and has 1 completion.  This is out of 114 attempts  He is among the lowest in the NFL in intended air yards per completion, almost 2 yards lower than last year. He has had 5 drops (2 to TMac, 1 to XL, 1 to Sanders, 1 to  Chuba) , which puts him slightly above the league average by percent, but pretty close to it (4.5% vs 4.1% or so). 

He's also above the league average in "bad throws" (based on PFF). 

I'm not entirely sure how they're measuring EPA per pass attempt there but according to https://sumersports.com/teams/offensive/ we are 26th in EPA per pass play. 

Given all that, the idea that the problem is our young receivers not holding onto the ball feels a little incorrect, tho TMac needs to work on that (some of those aren't deep).  Bryce has barely given them any opportunities deep.

I counted 1 - 2 uncatchable passes and a third that's debatable.

I don't get why folks think that invalidating any accomplishment by Bryce or Evero means they're pro-Panthers. It's a weird justification. Not that you're doing that mav, just commenting on some of the general surrounding chatter.

Edited 1 hour ago by Icege