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Under the Hood: The Panthers' Unserious Operation (tAFS Video)

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Some general musings after a minute:

The run game is dull, glanzlos.

Barely any pin & pull, twitchy misdirect, 12 personnel gap, pre-snap motion, Canales is inside/outside zone all day. Maybe 25-30% gap.

Whats weird is that this was a super similar issue with Reich who was unflinching in his ecosystem.  Passing game was WC, mesh heavy concepts, Running was Split zone and some stretch.

Canales is somehow even less creative than Reich in the run game, but he thinks vertically in the pass. There is no focus on getting a guy, to his advantage, in space. It’s just these bland runs, bland passes, some interesting deep looks a few times. 

I’m honestly leaning in the d-coach direction as HC. A guy to establish culture and tenaciousness. The offense can be just as good as the crap we’ve got used to. Need to find the right guy to create the right environment.

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47 minutes ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

O-line will be better now that Zavala is out

Ickey is our best option at LT at the current moment, but he's not worth top 5 or even top 10 money

Renfrow gets open but him and Bryce has no chemistry whatsoever and also Canales doesn't play Renfrow to his strengths

 

Zavala is out too much as well

 

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23 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Some general musings after a minute:

The run game is dull, glanzlos.

Barely any pin & pull, twitchy misdirect, 12 personnel gap, pre-snap motion, Canales is inside/outside zone all day. Maybe 25-30% gap.

Whats weird is that this was a super similar issue with Reich who was unflinching in his ecosystem.  Passing game was WC, mesh heavy concepts, Running was Split zone and some stretch.

Canales is somehow even less creative than Reich in the run game, but he thinks vertically in the pass. There is no focus on getting a guy, to his advantage, in space. It’s just these bland runs, bland passes, some interesting deep looks a few times. 

I’m honestly leaning in the d-coach direction as HC. A guy to establish culture and tenaciousness. The offense can be just as good as the crap we’ve got used to. Need to find the right guy to create the right environment.

Almost like uh, Steve Wilks with some creative coordinators. fuging Thomas Davis could do a better job in that case lol. Scare the poo out of these bums on the field

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9 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Oh man I didn't know Dalton finished up the game in garbage time and got that last 7 points lol. Watching the replay I know backups were in but that resembled something closer to actual NFL football than the first 3 and a half quarters.  

We know Dalton is good for a game or two. He shows us what the offense maybe could be with a QB who can consistently make accurate throws and has the arm strength to at least worry the defense a little. 

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39 minutes ago, csx said:

Their expectation of wht the offense isnt good is because they dont have good stats. Well duh. They dont have good stats because they arent good.  Their analysis lacks analyzing. 

"explanation of why"

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4 hours ago, BIGH2001 said:

We know Dalton is good for a game or two. He shows us what the offense maybe could be with a QB who can consistently make accurate throws and has the arm strength to at least worry the defense a little. 

I don’t even think Andy is all that accurate, it’s just the arm strength that jumps off the screen.  His regular throws have zip and get to the target in a hurry.  Wether our guy or their guy catches it is a toss up but it gets there quick.

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