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Seems that I remember some people saying Devin Lloyd was trash

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's been pretty meh up until this year but yeah he sure is balling out this year. Good for him.

No, what we have is meh, Lloyd was arguably pretty good, as was discussed, and Basbear projected the ascendance. It makes a world of difference when a player is actually put into positions to succeed. 

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4 minutes ago, TD alt said:

No, what we have is meh, Lloyd was arguably pretty good, as was discussed, and Basbear projected the ascendance. It makes a world of difference when a player is actually put into positions to succeed. 

What we have is ass. What Lloyd was prior to this year was meh. Big difference.

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1 minute ago, fanpanther said:

it amazes me how many times in general regular fans that pay attention can c players that have potential or r terrible and nfl coaches and scouts sometimes seem too close to it all to really c

To be fair, not many 27 year old fourth year players have huge breakout seasons. Most of those guys are who they are at that point. It's surprising when it happens for a reason.

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57 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What we have is ass. What Lloyd was prior to this year was meh. Big difference.

That's your opinion. It still doesn't mean that he was, or that he wasn't put into the best positions to succeed, and still played well enough to be rank relatively well overall (including 22nd last season  and has been top 10 in run defense the last couple of seasons). I mean, come on. He's certainly a better than JAG, which "meh" implies---average or mediocre. He's certainly a better LB than Coker is a receiver. Why downplay it?

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2 minutes ago, TD alt said:

That's your opinion. It still doesn't mean that he was, or that he wasn't put into the best positions to succeed, and still played well enough to be rank relatively well overall (including 22nd last season  and has been top 10 in run defense the last couple of seasons). I mean, come on. He's certainly a better than JAG, which "meh" implies---average or mediocre. He's certainly a better LB than Coker is a receiver. Why downplay it?

He's trying to say prior to this year he was the Sam Howell of LBs 

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7 minutes ago, TD alt said:

That's your opinion. It still doesn't mean that he was, or that he wasn't put into the best positions to succeed, and still played well enough to be rank relatively well overall (including 22nd last season  and has been top 10 in run defense the last couple of seasons). I mean, come on. He's certainly a better than JAG, which "meh" implies---average or mediocre. He's certainly a better LB than Coker is a receiver. Why downplay it?

He was a disappointing 1st rounder, hence why his option wasn't picked up. That's the was the Jags' opinion who are more familiar with him as an NFL player than any other organization.

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8 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

To be fair, not many 27 year old fourth year players have huge breakout seasons. Most of those guys are who they are at that point. It's surprising when it happens for a reason.

In a contract year after they didn't pick up his 5th option? I wouldn't bet on that next contract until he adds one more year of more than meh. Huge red flag of could have but didn't until the pay is a thing again. 

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8 hours ago, fanpanther said:

it amazes me how many times in general regular fans that pay attention can c players that have potential or r terrible and nfl coaches and scouts sometimes seem too close to it all to really c

See and are aren't really that long of words r they?

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