Drafting X is like the poster board for mistakes. Hopefully, lesson learned.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

You old!

Yeah, I figured that out when I started seeing all these "sons" of players I used to watch, like Pat Surtain II or Jaycee Horn. 

Like...damn....

[csx]

I remember him at State.

[Navy_football]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, I figured that out when I started seeing all these "sons" of players I used to watch, like Pat Surtain II or Jaycee Horn. 

Like...damn....

I remember Iron Head Heyward had two sons in a game a couple of years ago. That stung. That really stung. 

[csx]

20 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I remember Iron Head Heyward had two sons in a game a couple of years ago. That stung. That really stung. 

Cam played last night. I didnt know the connection until reading this and thinking about it

[OldhamA]

On 10/15/2025 at 6:38 PM, kungfoodude said:

AJ Brown is a proven commodity. That's the difference.

TMac is getting near eclipsing XL's entire career production less than halfway through his rookie season. 

That's a prime example of why people bitch about XL. 

Biiiiiiig difference between being taken Top 10 and 32nd overall.

[kungfoodude]

17 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Biiiiiiig difference between being taken Top 10 and 32nd overall.

In terms of evaluation, sure. But there are plenty of very productive 2nd and 3rd round WR's. XL has gotten a TON of targets. He has had the opportunities. The excuses for him not producing are getting a little thin when he has guys around him doing so.

[TD alt]

11 hours ago, KaseKlosed said:

Hey man if you are just going to be negative about the players after a great game just pick another team. Thanks. 

How about if you don't like my choice of content, then don't click on the thread? We're discussing the NFL, not Pee-wee football. Until we start having "great" games on a continuous basis, I'm going to continue to talk all facets of the team. Moreover, I haven't seen X have a "great" game yet. Just like I supported patience last season, I have become critical this season. If it hurts your feelings, it just hurts your feelings.

I've been on this board longer than most of you, and I've been a fan of the Panthers since before they stepped on the field, so don't tell me how to fan. 

[SetfreexX]

1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

Biiiiiiig difference between being taken Top 10 and 32nd overall.

This, 1st receiver taken versus the 7th receiver taken in XL. 8th pick, vs 32nd pick. 

Go watch the A22, Bryce has missed XL a few times on TDs, and big gains.

[Mage]

1 hour ago, SetfreexX said:

This, 1st receiver taken versus the 7th receiver taken in XL. 8th pick, vs 32nd pick. 

Go watch the A22, Bryce has missed XL a few times on TDs, and big gains.

Jimmy Horn is playing with the same QB and in 2 fewer games already has more receiving yards than XL has this year.

 

[FatChad]

considering mcconkey was available it was dumb af.  then trading down and picking brooks when zach frazier was sitting there?  I for sure thought we traded down to pick frazier.  The fact that a random casual fan like me would have made better picks than the professionals is a problem.  

[OldhamA]

4 hours ago, Mage said:

Jimmy Horn is playing with the same QB and in 2 fewer games already has more receiving yards than XL has this year.

 

Hey, maybe Jimmy Horn is a superstar? Coker played really well last year as an UDFA. 

[TD alt]

4 hours ago, Mage said:

Jimmy Horn is playing with the same QB and in 2 fewer games already has more receiving yards than XL has this year.

 

And that's the kinda thing that bothers me. I realize that guys don't develop at the same rate, but damn. All the "He'll be just fine sentiment," is ringing kinda hollow at this point. He's an able blocker, I'll give him that, but I can't put my head in the sand anymore, Coker appears to be the better overall receiver.