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Official Week 7: Panthers @ Jets Gameday Thread

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1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

I don't think winning when looking like poo and making the same mistakes we always make is taking baby steps, it's just spinning your tires while stuck in the mud.

Growing pains by definition involve actually growing, something we can't seem to do under Canales, week after week of the same problems, that's not growth, it's a problem.

While I see your point, I'd like to push back on this a little. This is a franchise that has essentially forgotten how to win. Every win is a good thing for these guys. They could have easily said, "here we go again" in the 4th quarter, but they didn't. Sure, some coach decisions had me scratching my head, but they got the win, and that's never bad. 

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Just now, VintagePanther said:

So since we not growing why do we have a winning record rn . Explain that please ?

Because we've played 3 of the worst teams in the entire league the past 3 weeks.

The Jets and Dolphins literally might be the 31st and 32nd best teams in the league, while the Cowboys have literally the worst defense in the NFL.

And we just eked by with wins in each of those games, if you actually think that's showing growth, then I don't know what to say.

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Because we've played 3 of the worst teams in the entire league the past 3 weeks.

The Jets and Dolphins literally might be the 31st and 32nd best teams in the league, while the Cowboys have literally the worst defense in the NFL.

And we just eked by with wins in each of those games, if you actually think that's showing growth, then I don't know what to say.

The dolphins are hot garbage but the Jets are much better than that record shows. They have gone toe to toe with the Buccaneers, Steelers and Broncos who all lead their divisions. 

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Just now, tukafan21 said:

Because we've played 3 of the worst teams in the entire league the past 3 weeks.

The Jets and Dolphins literally might be the 31st and 32nd best teams in the league, while the Cowboys have literally the worst defense in the NFL.

And we just eked by with wins in each of those games, if you actually think that's showing growth, then I don't know what to say.

Lol that’s not a valid reason . We were the laughing stock of the league the past few years now we better than other teams sound like growth to me . But it’s always them not us huh ? How convenient 

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2 minutes ago, RockyTopVol said:

While I see your point, I'd like to push back on this a little. This is a franchise that has essentially forgotten how to win. Every win is a good thing for these guys. They could have easily said, "here we go again" in the 4th quarter, but they didn't. Sure, some coach decisions had me scratching my head, but they got the win, and that's never bad. 

I get it, but honestly, responses like this just frustrate me and showcase why we're such a bad franchise (and fan base).

We can't be celebrating bad wins just because they're wins, that's not going to actually improve the franchise's outlook.

Show actual on field improvement in a loss and I'm going to celebrate that 100 out of 100 times over showing regression on the field in wins against the worst teams in the league.

And that's not me asking for losses, show improvement in a win and it's even better.  Just saying that I'd rather lose in a game we show improvement than win games where we actually regress as a team, and I don't understand why that's controversial to say.

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2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Because we've played 3 of the worst teams in the entire league the past 3 weeks.

The Jets and Dolphins literally might be the 31st and 32nd best teams in the league, while the Cowboys have literally the worst defense in the NFL.

And we just eked by with wins in each of those games, if you actually think that's showing growth, then I don't know what to say.

We also beat one of the best (statistically) teams in the league 30-0. Why didn't you mention that?

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1 minute ago, VintagePanther said:

Lol that’s not a valid reason . We were the laughing stock of the league the past few years now we better than other teams sound like growth to me . But it’s always them not us huh ? How convenient 

So you want to celebrate just not being the worst team in the league?

That to you is a good thing and worth celebrating?

For fug's sake, this is why this franchise has one of the worst fan bases ever, we just want to not be the worst team and that's good enough for us.

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2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I get it, but honestly, responses like this just frustrate me and showcase why we're such a bad franchise (and fan base).

We can't be celebrating bad wins just because they're wins, that's not going to actually improve the franchise's outlook.

Show actual on field improvement in a loss and I'm going to celebrate that 100 out of 100 times over showing regression on the field in wins against the worst teams in the league.

And that's not me asking for losses, show improvement in a win and it's even better.  Just saying that I'd rather lose in a game we show improvement than win games where we actually regress as a team, and I don't understand why that's controversial to say.

Talking about on field improvement your man needs work on press man coverage 

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Talking about on field improvement your man needs work on press man coverage 

So the player the entire fan base agrees was a home run draft pick, has something to work on during his rookie season, and because of that you're going to dismiss anything I say about the actual lack of improvement by the coaching staff and QB play?

That's just dumb, very very dumb.

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To be fair this game went just about exactly the way I thought it would.

We basically just played our doppelgänger.

Bryce looked ineffective and flaccid.  And we shot ourselves in the foot trying to shove Chubba back into the fold.  Dowdle was still the more effective back. Coaching is to blame.

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11 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

The dolphins are hot garbage but the Jets are much better than that record shows. They have gone toe to toe with the Buccaneers, Steelers and Broncos who all lead their divisions. 

If the Jets had a QB they'd be pretty good (at least mid tier).

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