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I Know We Should Celebrate the Win. But Canales Is Pissing Me The fug Off


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1 minute ago, GoobyPls said:

Bryce is interchangeable with the majority of the QBs in the middle of the league, you just hate him so much there nothing in will say that will change your mind. You mean the same Baker that had a much better panthers roster and still got cut? Or Darnold who inherited the most talented panthers team in the last decade and was benched.
 

Do you even watch football? Penix never gets under center, in terms of taking snaps under center there a bunch of other QBs that never get under center and that includes Jayden Daniel’s who is everyone darling.

I see you didn't accept my challenge. Let's just limit this discussion to the NFC.

Given me a team in NFC East (Dallas, Washington. Philadelphia, or NY) that would take Bryce over their current starter.

How about the NFC North (Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, or Chicago)

How about the NFC West (LA, SF, Seattle, Arizona)

In the NFC South he'd never beat out Mayfield or Pennix.

Outside of New Orleans, what team in the NFC has a current starting QB that Bryce would beat out in a fair competition?

 

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Right now Bryce is playing better than Daniels, Caleb, Wentz, Kyler, Purdy, Penix and Hurts. Keep in mind all those guys with the exception of Daniels and Purdy who weapons are all injured have much better supporting cast. 
 

They also play in schemes that don’t make them do stuff they are not comfortable with.


I know you don’t watch the rest of the league play but do you really think guys like Kyler, Daniels, Penix and Hurts who never take snap under center, who play in no huddle rpo based schemes would do better in Canales scheme? With the lack of weapons the Panther have compared to those teams. Cause I don’t 

 

Matter of fact i think if you put Bryce in scheme like the Falcons, Dolphins or Denver where it a lot quick based reads his numbers would would be much better than all those QBs

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7 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Right now Bryce is playing better than Daniels, Caleb, Wentz, Kyler, Purdy, Penix and Hurts. Keep in mind all those guys with the exception of Daniels and Purdy who weapons are all injured have much better supporting cast. 
 

They also play in schemes that don’t make them do stuff they are not comfortable with.


I know you don’t watch the rest of the league play but do you really think guys like Kyler, Daniels, Penix and Hurts who never take snap under center, who play in no huddle rpo based schemes would do better in Canales scheme? With the lack of weapons the Panther have compared to those teams. Cause I don’t 

 

Matter of fact i think if you put Bryce in scheme like the Falcons, Dolphins or Denver where it a lot quick based reads his numbers would would be much better than all those QBs

You and I will have to agree to disagree on this topic.  

 

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8 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Chuba is a good guy and well-liked in the locker room, I think that plays a big role in it.  It’s hard to take that guy’s job and give it to someone else, no matter the margin.  That being said, I’ve always felt Chuba has had his limitations, but he was a lone bright spot on the offense for a lot of years recently, so we rewarded him for it - both with playing time and a contract.  And I appreciate Chuba, but in now seeing him and Rico side by side, Chuba needs to only come in to provide Rico a breather.  Sure, Chuba may be having trouble getting back in the groove coming back from his injury, but he’s never really been a runner with a lot of suddenness.  But I feel like bigger than strengths or weaknesses, this feels like a case of “if you have 2 RBs, you have no RBs.”  Which is weird, bc historically it can work, but these guys don’t seem to complement each other very well.

I told somebody that today, the old QB adage. If you have two you don't have one. People forget when we had Double Trouble, there still was a clear edge of carry volume going to D-Lo until his departure. NFL is cut throat and if it takes us eventually bailing on Chuba to feature Rico, that decision may have to be made. 

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9 hours ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

DC could have easily just said he didn’t want to “rush” Chuba back and given way more carries to Rico

I had this exact conversation with my father earlier in the week. Canales had the easiest way out by just saying 'he'll be on a pitch count', and just see how things unfold.

Instead we got this lopsided mess where Rico clearly has the hot hand for the year so far.

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I think this decision caused that game to be much closer than it should have. 

They essentially split carries and Roco had double the production, I think had those Chuba plays gone to Rico we would have had a much better run game and flow on offense.

Thankfully the defense stepped up and saved a game the head coach and offense was trying to blow. 

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8 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Right now Bryce is playing better than Daniels, Caleb, Wentz, Kyler, Purdy, Penix and Hurts. Keep in mind all those guys with the exception of Daniels and Purdy who weapons are all injured have much better supporting cast. 
 

They also play in schemes that don’t make them do stuff they are not comfortable with.


I know you don’t watch the rest of the league play but do you really think guys like Kyler, Daniels, Penix and Hurts who never take snap under center, who play in no huddle rpo based schemes would do better in Canales scheme? With the lack of weapons the Panther have compared to those teams. Cause I don’t 

 

Matter of fact i think if you put Bryce in scheme like the Falcons, Dolphins or Denver where it a lot quick based reads his numbers would would be much better than all those QBs

Godalmighty.   

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8 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Right now Bryce is playing better than Daniels, Caleb, Wentz, Kyler, Purdy, Penix and Hurts. Keep in mind all those guys with the exception of Daniels and Purdy who weapons are all injured have much better supporting cast. 
 

They also play in schemes that don’t make them do stuff they are not comfortable with.


I know you don’t watch the rest of the league play but do you really think guys like Kyler, Daniels, Penix and Hurts who never take snap under center, who play in no huddle rpo based schemes would do better in Canales scheme? With the lack of weapons the Panther have compared to those teams. Cause I don’t 

 

Matter of fact i think if you put Bryce in scheme like the Falcons, Dolphins or Denver where it a lot quick based reads his numbers would would be much better than all those QBs

Hurts? What the actual fug? 😆 

 

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9 hours ago, SCO96 said:

I see you didn't accept my challenge. Let's just limit this discussion to the NFC.

Given me a team in NFC East (Dallas, Washington. Philadelphia, or NY) that would take Bryce over their current starter.

How about the NFC North (Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, or Chicago)

How about the NFC West (LA, SF, Seattle, Arizona)

In the NFC South he'd never beat out Mayfield or Pennix.

Outside of New Orleans, what team in the NFC has a current starting QB that Bryce would beat out in a fair competition?

 

Possibly Minnesota, some weeks Falcons. That’s probably it

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15 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

Possibly Minnesota, some weeks Falcons. That’s probably it

Its hard to make the playoffs when your QB is significantly less talented in terms of physical attributes than the other QBs in their division (NFC South). Its practically impossible when your QB is physically less talented than every starting QB than nearly every QB in the entire NFC. 

A shorter QB can succeed if he has the arm strength, accuracy, and head knowledge to execute the game plan. Bryce is severely lacking in the first two beyond the 10 yard range and that's what is hurting the team on offense. If he could improve those two attributes I think he could excel in the NFL and our team would be a playoff contender. But, at this stage in his career I don't think things are likely to change.

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