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Trade for a QB?


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3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I still say drafting Fields was the play even though he sucks.  It would have cost much less and we wouldn't be as staggered as we are now with the timing of Bryce's contract.  You add in the coach inheriting this problem.  It's just compounded itself multiple times over.

We should have just bit the bullet and taken the easy L.😆

Yep. Like I said earlier, it would've been the comparatively far less painful mistake to move on from.

Honestly, minus the insane investment made we would've already moved on from Bryce by now. We're stuck in a sunk cost fallacy quagmire at the moment.

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm fine with putting Dalton out there and seeing how it goes. That's why I'm hoping Bryce is gonna miss this week. We still have time. There's two games to go before the trade deadline so let's see what the rusty old Red Rifle has left.

Eh....sounds like longer than next week. High ankle sprain.

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

Eh....sounds like longer than next week. High ankle sprain.

Honestly, this is a good thing. I'm glad we're being forced to put Dalton out there and honestly if Bryce is going to miss multiple weeks we might feel pressured to shop for a late round pick type of trade to shore up the backup QB position. Sometimes you have to get forced into doing the thing you should've already been trying to do.

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7 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I still say drafting Fields was the play even though he sucks.  It would have cost much less and we wouldn't be as staggered as we are now with the timing of Bryce's contract.  You add in the coach inheriting this problem.  It's just compounded itself multiple times over.

We should have just bit the bullet and taken the easy L.😆

Nah. That braintrust would already have signed him to a top 5 contract. No thanks.

7 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

He bounced around the league before landing here to hold Bryce's hand. 

He looked good in one spot start last season then was bad enough that they felt confident in putting Young back in. 

Well technically he lost his job to a car accident.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly, this is a good thing. I'm glad we're being forced to put Dalton out there and honestly if Bryce is going to miss multiple weeks we might feel pressured to shop for a late round pick type of trade to shore up the backup QB position. Sometimes you have to get forced into doing the thing you should've already been trying to do.

Yeah, I mean if the offense looks substantially more logical with Dalton, I think the obvious answer suddenly becomes undeniable. Bryce is the problem.

If Dalton struggles for obviously Dalton related reasons, you have to pivot.

Or maybe it also shows Bryce isn't THE biggest problem, as well.

I am glad we get to see some moving parts to figure some of this all out.

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4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, I mean if the offense looks substantially more logical with Dalton, I think the obvious answer suddenly becomes undeniable. Bryce is the problem.

If Dalton struggles for obviously Dalton related reasons, you have to pivot.

Or maybe it also shows Bryce isn't THE biggest problem, as well.

I am glad we get to see some moving parts to figure some of this all out.

I still don't understand how this is any different than last season.  Here we go again I guess.

 

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2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I still don't understand how this is any different than last season.  Here we go again I guess.

 

Dalton was f’n terrible last year outside of that Vegas game. And Vegas was terrible last year and Chuba had 169 total yards that day

the next 4 games he threw 4 touchdowns to 6 interceptions. The last 3 of those 4 games were absolute blowouts

Hell Bryce came in against Chicago and Washington cuz the game was so over and Dalton was so bad

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High ankle sprain, 2-4 weeks, that said, no one is coming in and getting the playbook down better than what Dalton or Hooker will be able to do over the next 2 weeks.  We are not in buy in win now mode, we are still a developing project that was in a hopeful position at this point.  Use andy, if ineffective, use Hooker.

Ultimately our formula the last 3 weeks winning has been Run. The. Ball.  Whether its Rico or Chuba, we will run the ball atleast 30 times and ask Dalton to be opportunistic and that should be it.

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Just now, *FreeFua* said:

Dalton was f’n terrible last year outside of that Vegas game. And Vegas was terrible last year and Chuba had 169 total yards that day

the next 4 games he threw 4 touchdowns to 6 interceptions. The last 3 of those 4 games were absolute blowouts

Hell Bryce came in against Chicago and Washington cuz the game was so over and Dalton was so bad

Yeah I agree.  If he was average, Bryce would have never made it back on the field.

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1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Yeah I agree.  If he was average, Bryce would have never made it back on the field.

Nope. There was honestly no plan to bring Bryce back 

Also Dalton looked even worse this preseason. He’s a 40 year old with 100 years of experience and he couldn’t move the ball against teams 2nd units… I honestly can’t believe they wasted cap space brining him back

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