Bryce Young has now played one full seasons worth of games since returning from his benching in 2024

[Waldo]

5 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

No, it's actually right. I looked it up on PFR.

Since week 8 at Denver last year:
26 TDs passing, 6 TDs rushing (32 total TDs)
11 INTs, 5 lost fumbles (16 total turnovers).

When you factor in the record and the yardage, he's a respectable game manager. Whether he was acquired for that or not is irrelevant 2.5 years later. He is what he is. Dude is not gonna be the franchise QB people thought he'd be, but he's also not one of the worst QBs who ever played an NFL snap like others think. 

As bad as people think he is, you could -- statistically speaking -- do far worse (look at guys who've started here, like PJ Walker, Will Grier, Randy Fasani, Taylor Heinicke, Frank Reich for that matter). That's the scary part.

He only has 26 tds and 16 ints in all of last season and this season in total

Edited 7 hours ago by Waldo

[Joe Bear]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

He only has 26 tds and 16 ints in all of last season and this season in total

I believe the point of the thread was addressing what his numbers were since coming back from being benched.

[Waldo]

27 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

I believe the point of the thread was addressing what his numbers were since coming back from being benched.

Yes and like I said he just has 26 tds and 16 ints in all that time with 11 ints in cherry picking it all to remove 4 interceptions. Since you did running TDs too why not add fumbles? Hint it's 9 fumbles

Too much cherry picking, both sides. Just lay it all out there. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Waldo

[tukafan21]

8 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Yes average or slightly below average, his biggest problem is his footwork. He doesn't use proper footwork all the time. When he does he can throw the ball 55-60 yards air yards and do it accurately. It's just he hardly ever uses proper footwork and lower body mechanics so it's not seen very often. 

But it's not the 55-60 yard passes where his arm strength issues are a problem, partially because we just flat out don't ever run those plays due to his lack of arm strength.

It's the 25 yard downfield passes but to the boundary, so he has to throw the ball 40-45 air yards of distance.  In the NFL, you need to drive those throws into those windows so it gets to the WR before any DB can get there to break it up.

He flat out is unable to properly make that throw on an NFL level, like, at all.

He's able to make those throws when they need to be a touch pass, i.e. the WR beat his defender, no safety help, and he needs to feather it in there for the WR to run under it for a sideline catch.  But when there is a deep defender and he needs to drive the ball on a rope between the defender our WR has beat and the safety coming down from above, he just can't.

And yes, a SMALL part of that is his footwork problems, but even when he has proper footwork, his arm isn't strong enough to make that throw in the way almost every single other starting QB is able to.

[Joe Bear]

2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Yes and like I said he just has 26 tds and 16 ints in all that time with 11 ints in cherry picking it all to remove 4 interceptions. Since you did running TDs too why not add fumbles? Hint it's 9 fumbles

Too much cherry picking, both sides. Just lay it all out there. 

I did add fumbles.

[trucpfan]

2 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

This is the reason I’m leaving this forum. Yall refuse to be objective when it comes to Bryce. All QBs miss throws over the course of a game. It’s really nothing. Those stats with this roster is something you should be proud of in your young QB. But we all know what it is. Yall got it. If there are any real ones left here from back in the day yall can hit me up on private message, but I’m out. 

lol this is hilarious after those stays with this roster man what…..you gotta be joking right so you don’t see little man miss about 2-3 easy big plays a game? Man IMO Canales would look like a hellava offensive coach if he had a QB who could deliver on time and accurate passes all around the field. The numbers would look good if he’d could actually get the ball to the open wrs on this team. We have talent all over the field ilthose numbers should be much much better if you can’t see it you’re scared to admit the truth. He consistently has missed WRs who should either have 30+ yards or TDs added to their resume this season.  He may get better but since he hasn’t lived in the gym yet and formed and developed his NFL body his weak arm hasn’t gotten stronger the competition has gotten faster and better. It worked it college it doesn’t work well in the pros. I’ve been furious with Bryce for that reason he had to see he doesn’t have all them physical tools as other QBs so he should bulk up to his maximum ability to add a little muscle to his frame which could definitely help his throws get there a little better. You don’t remember Horn Jr having to slow down and turn around a couple weeks ago because the ball took forever to get to him while he waited wide open that ball hits him in stride he’s able to put that defender in the got dam blender and score. It’s just another example of Bryce’s arm  not being able to zip passes to his wide receivers but with all that said it’s clear he’s not the guy. He a couple ticks below average this roster is ready to put up points shut down opponents were just not able to run the full playbook bc lil man can’t sling it all around the yard it’s clear as day.

[Waldo]

8 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

I did add fumbles.

9 fumbles total. 5 lost

[joeyxfresco]

First winning record since 2021 and we’re shitting on our QB. Typical Panther fandom. 

[OldhamA]

33 minutes ago, joeyxfresco said:

First winning record since 2021 and we’re shitting on our QB. Typical Panther fandom. 

Well he's a big part of why we've been under .500 for so long.

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 hour ago, trucpfan said:

lol this is hilarious after those stays with this roster man what…..you gotta be joking right so you don’t see little man miss about 2-3 easy big plays a game? Man IMO Canales would look like a hellava offensive coach if he had a QB who could deliver on time and accurate passes all around the field. The numbers would look good if he’d could actually get the ball to the open wrs on this team. We have talent all over the field ilthose numbers should be much much better if you can’t see it you’re scared to admit the truth. He consistently has missed WRs who should either have 30+ yards or TDs added to their resume this season.  He may get better but since he hasn’t lived in the gym yet and formed and developed his NFL body his weak arm hasn’t gotten stronger the competition has gotten faster and better. It worked it college it doesn’t work well in the pros. I’ve been furious with Bryce for that reason he had to see he doesn’t have all them physical tools as other QBs so he should bulk up to his maximum ability to add a little muscle to his frame which could definitely help his throws get there a little better. You don’t remember Horn Jr having to slow down and turn around a couple weeks ago because the ball took forever to get to him while he waited wide open that ball hits him in stride he’s able to put that defender in the got dam blender and score. It’s just another example of Bryce’s arm  not being able to zip passes to his wide receivers but with all that said it’s clear he’s not the guy. He a couple ticks below average this roster is ready to put up points shut down opponents were just not able to run the full playbook bc lil man can’t sling it all around the yard it’s clear as day.

He'll be back to write some manifesto post about how he's done with Bryce.   Again.

[PNW_PantherMan]

58 minutes ago, joeyxfresco said:

First winning record since 2021 and we’re shitting on our QB. Typical Panther fandom. 

How'd that winning record in 2021 turn out?  We got problems brother.

[electro's horse]

yeah this is a pretty chintzy winning record. 

We needed to be like 6-1 coming out of this. 

[carpanfan96]

6 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Lol.  Not this poo again. Especially after yesterday 

Never said he was the guy, just that his arm strength is average to slightly below average which is true. His footwork is horrible. 

[carpanfan96]

6 hours ago, Castavar said:

Show me these throws. 

 From Alabama when using proper footwork. 59 air yards on a dime.