Is Canales digging his own grave?

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Dave Canales has admitted he doesn’t have final roster decisions on the defense. 

now he needs to talk to the “leadership council” to change starting running backs. 

what the fug are we doing here 

He seems like a players coach to a fault. Just wants everyone to like him.

[mrcompletely11]

53 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

1. Trading down to draft Jonathan Brooks in the second;

2. giving washed up Dalton an extension w/ 6M guaranteed;

3. giving Chuba Hubbard a contract extension with 14M guaranteed after you spent so much draft capital at the position:  

4. trading into the first round to draft XL when McConkey was available.  

We traded up for brooks.  

Signing Dalton was moronic 

Chubbas out isn't bad

Xl was another pick influenced by ownership 

[electro's horse]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He seems like a players coach to a fault. Just wants everyone to like him.

Seems like he’s inspired by Michael Scott. 

a decision like that as an office episode writes itself. 

[CRA]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

We traded up for brooks.  

Signing Dalton was moronic 

Chubbas out isn't bad

Xl was another pick influenced by ownership 

XL fit the Canales tree of what you want in a WR

David Tepper isn't out there making all these moves.  

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

XL fit the Canales tree of what you want in a WR

Does he?

I know he kept making the Mike Evans comparison, but Evans was one of the best college receivers of the past twenty years. He was so good a coked up Armenian won a heisman throwing up prayers towards him. 

XL….barely did anything in college? I guess he’s big and fast but there’s plenty of those guys around. 

[HaricotVert]

2 hours ago, strato said:

There is validity to the approach but you have to have the players to do it with. If you don’t they will stop you. 
You know you have a great team if they know what,s coming and still can’t stop it. 

There was a time I believed in it.  Walk up to the LOS and look the MLB dead in the eye and say "Off-tackle right on 2" and just beat their ass with execution.

But that NFL is gone and it doesnt matter how good the team is as the worst guy on the defense is still a world class athlete.  There has to be some misdirection in todays NFL.  You cant go with an empty backfield on 3rd and anything and win the numbers game.

Maybe in Vince Lombardi's day that out execute mentality worked - but so did the Veer

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Does he?

I know he kept making the Mike Evans comparison, but Evans was one of the best college receivers of the past twenty years. He was so good a coked up Armenian won a heisman throwing up prayers towards him. 

XL….barely did anything in college? I guess he’s big and fast but there’s plenty of those guys around. 

On paper.  And not just Evans.  You can go to Seattle too.  Him not panning out doesn’t mean the narrative and how he projected didn’t fit at draft time.  

I only endorsed drafting XL if we were moving on from Bryce Young soon and said at the time XL would stink until we officially moved on from Bryce.   They don’t fit the same offense.  If you were going to stick with Bryce, Ladd made more sense.  But Ladd also doesnt  fit what Dave does 

[countryboi]

yall in here talking crazy about Canales, like the Panthers aint 4-4. they didn't win their 4th game till week 16 last year. he is about as safe as a coach can be in the NFL. you ask for progress and competitiveness that's what this looks like  

[electro's horse]

7 minutes ago, CRA said:

.  But Ladd also doesnt  fit what Dave does 

I dunno Ladd would be pretty sweet catching 15 check downs and quick slants a game. 

And he knows how to play with shitty QBs. Poor guy would have been a top ten pick if not for Carson Beck 

[KillerKat]

4 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Look at Belicheat without Brady.

I refuse to fully judge Canales until he has a QB.

Look at Rivera with Cam and how his ineptitude wasted his talents.

[strato]

Shaq knowing the calls and nothing being changed, apparently, is the biggest issue. 
Or maybe right alongside the 31st run D argument. 
it is a major fugup. Maybe some signals compromised in the Jax game too if you listen to Saleh. 
But Shaq knowing the checks and stuff is something you Have to account for. I had that in mind and then we lost the board for hours and just forgot it. 
 

Here is where I believe you have to be with a green coach: you know you are going to get rookie mistakes, you see if he learns from it. 
Two games for the Chuba issue. He is a team captain and got some deference. I didn’t like it especially after we saw the Jets game but I get it. 
And let’s not pretend if a good run D wants to shut RICO down, they can’t do it. Because they will. Somebody will. 

[electro's horse]

How many years into his career is a coach green? Second year, apparently. 

Will he still be green next year?

is this how Bryce is still a young qb learning the league in year three?

[Aussie Tank]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Does he?

I know he kept making the Mike Evans comparison, but Evans was one of the best college receivers of the past twenty years. He was so good a coked up Armenian won a heisman throwing up prayers towards him. 

XL….barely did anything in college? I guess he’s big and fast but there’s plenty of those guys around. 

It wasn't Evans they were trying to luck into it was Metcalf 

[Tomcatn]

4 hours ago, csx said:

Probably. Hes a bullshit artist. 

This Dowdle thing has made me lose the glimpse of hope i had. 

Should've put bullshit artist in all caps