QB 2026 (For the Young Haters)

[strato]

11 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

It doesnt work like that.  Its either extend the 5th or move on.   Theres only been one qb that I am aware of that didnt get the 5th and still played on his fourth and t it was a disaster .  They have to make a decision to either go with bryce 2 more years, move on or extension

I hope they will take a long look at what that 26 or 27 million would buy them on the open market before that hand it to junior. 
 

I have to remind myself he has 8 games to change minds. But at this point I can’t find 26 million reasons to keep him. 

Edited 2 hours ago by strato

[electro's horse]

12 minutes ago, Mage said:

Maybe he wouldn't, but where is his leverage?  Sure, he could sit out... but are we really losing out on much if he does?  And there is only so long he could do that for.

It would be in his best interest to have the best season he possibly could before free agency.

It’s a health thing. He’s risking a career ending injury with nothing else in front of him.

Plus he’s fully vested at 3 years but 5 is when a bunch of escalators kick iirc 

and the fact it’s not frowned upon to sit as a backup anymore, ie darnold, technically baker etc. he’d make more money on a two year back deal than his last year in Carolina. 

[kungfoodude]

On 11/3/2025 at 8:45 AM, LinvilleGorge said:

There's no way any objective football fan can watch the Panthers play and not conclude that they're being held back by the QB position.

I guess my question would be, what fanbases in the NFL look at Bryce Young and say, "Boy, wish I had that."

 

[Mage]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

It’s a health thing. He’s risking a career ending injury with nothing else in front of him.

Plus he’s fully vested at 3 years but 5 is when a bunch of escalators kick iirc 

and the fact it’s not frowned upon to sit as a backup anymore, ie darnold, technically baker etc. he’d make more money on a two year back deal than his last year in Carolina. 

But those teams traded Darnold and Baker.  Sure, Panthers could trade Bryce Young, and that would be a smart option if they can find a willing partner.  But outright cutting him isn't going to happen, and I can't see the Panthers trading him without a solid plan in place.

Jets traded Darnold because they got Zach Wilson.  Browns traded Baker because they got Watson.  Who are we bringing in that would incentive us to trade Bryce?  We won't be in a position to draft a guy as highly as the Jets did Wilson and while things in this league change fast, I can't imagine any QB that was as highly touted as Watson was at the time (on the field) requesting a trade in the offseason.  

LIS anything could happen.  Maybe Stafford is done with LA and we can get him on the cheap.  Maybe the Colts don't lock up Daniel Jones and we bring him in.  Maybe Rodgers sticks around for one more year and comes here.  Maybe we get lucky and one of the top QB prospects falls to us.  But right now it doesn't feel like a situation where Bryce is likely to get traded.  I would bet a lot of money he's on the team next year in some capacity, even if that means negotiating a higher-paying one-year deal to stop him from holding out.  

[mrcompletely11]

our favs Mac and Bone discussed this today and both are homers neither could commit to an extension, they both would pick up the 5th.  They claim he is developing and getting better while the numbers say otherwise.

 

Bryce is moving backwards and I suspect its because the league now have over 30 games of film on him.  I my dumbass can see it I pray to God Dave and Dan do as well.

Edited 2 hours ago by mrcompletely11

[strato]

2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

It’s a health thing. He’s risking a career ending injury with nothing else in front of him.

Plus he’s fully vested at 3 years but 5 is when a bunch of escalators kick iirc 

and the fact it’s not frowned upon to sit as a backup anymore, ie darnold, technically baker etc. he’d make more money on a two year back deal than his last year in Carolina. 

Mayfield and Darnold both offered physical attributes at the position, that Young lacks. 
It would be interesting to watch what happened if he were out there for the taking

[LinvilleGorge]

11 minutes ago, strato said:

I hope they will take a long look at what that 26 or 27 million would buy them on the open market before that hand it to junior. 
 

I have to remind myself he has 8 games to change minds. But at this point I can’t find 26 million reasons to keep him. 

Agreed. You can get Bryce level play out of a cheap veteran journeyman. It's not hard to replace basement tier game manager production with gunslinger turnover numbers and a low ceiling. Honestly, Bryce is the type of QB who should be trying to barely hang onto the bottom of a roster somewhere when you just objectively look at his production, his turnovers, and his talent ceiling.

[mrcompletely11]

4 minutes ago, Mage said:

LIS anything could happen.  Maybe Stafford is done with LA and we can get him on the cheap.  Maybe the Colts don't lock up Daniel Jones and we bring him in.  Maybe Rodgers sticks around for one more year and comes here.  Maybe we get lucky and one of the top QB prospects falls to us.  But right now it doesn't feel like a situation where Bryce is likely to get traded.  I would bet a lot of money he's on the team next year in some capacity, even if that means negotiating a higher-paying one-year deal to stop him from holding out.  

I dont know who the answer is, whether its a draft pick, free agent or trading for a qb but by God something has to be done.  I dont give two fugs if dalton and bryce are under contract for 2026 you have to shake the qb room up.   We got 8 games to go and to date to my knowledge no media member has asked about the 5th year option.  You know damn well if this was a ny or philly or whatever market nobody would be scared to ask.

[travisura]

11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I guess my question would be, what fanbases in the NFL look at Bryce Young and say, "Boy, wish I had that."

 

Browns, and maybe the Jets. I would say Saints, but they've certainly seen enough of him to know what they'd be getting.

[Donald LaFell]

22 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I guess my question would be, what fanbases in the NFL look at Bryce Young and say, "Boy, wish I had that."

 

I think he might be enough to be a back up. At times he looks like a top 64 QB. I wish him nothing but the best. He’s smart and has a lot of top football experience. 
 

Extending him will the death of this teams cycle and we’ll have to do another tear down with a new coach. Maybe we will rebound quicker if we keep drafting well. 

[kungfoodude]

21 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

our favs Mac and Bone discussed this today and both are homers neither could commit to an extension, they both would pick up the 5th.  They claim he is developing and getting better while the numbers say otherwise.

 

Bryce is moving backwards and I suspect its because the league now have over 30 games of film on him.  I my dumbass can see it I pray to God Dave and Dan do as well.

Moving backwards by what measures?

[kungfoodude]

14 minutes ago, travisura said:

Browns, and maybe the Jets. I would say Saints, but they've certainly seen enough of him to know what they'd be getting.

Gabriel is a Bryce level guy, for sure. They are good comps, actually. Bryce is early better. Now, I don't think their fans would be pining for Bryce, though. They'd more likely rather have Flacco back.

The Jets I am unsure of. I definitely would take Tyrod on his contract over Bryce on his contract 100/100 times.

The Saints are a good one. Rattler is basically the good version of Bryce, which is to say, not very good. I would be willing to bet the majority of them would still ride with Shough because of the lack of seeing him yet.

[Chaos]

Why is it so hard for some people to separate wins and quarterback performance?  It’s like, we’re winning so everything’s great.  Give us just a middle of the pack NFL QB with our currently overachieving run game (see banged up and shuffled O line) and overachieving defense (see lack of playmakers at LB and weak pass rush).  No telling how much better we would be. And if one of those overachieving units should fall back down to earth some, maybe our middle of the pack QB would still win us some games. 

[strato]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Moving backwards by what measures?

I don’t know that it is backwards but is he moving forward? I understand the weather conditions were prohibitive but Inneed to see him back some defenses off and show that he will throw it over their heads, more than once. 
If that doesn’t happen we are on a dead end street with this running attack sooner or later.