This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion)

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

Your chart confirms what I noticed yesterday. No real success passing the ball in the middle of the field. Everything is pretty much confined to the area outside the numbers and hashmarks. I didn't realize he only completed 2 passes that were 10 yards beyond the LOS until you mentioned it in an earlier post.

BTW, where did you get this chart?

 

 

 https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/

click on charts on the top.  it will do WR routes, RB runs, and QB passes

 

[PantherChris]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

@LinvilleGorge would it be possible for the mods to start merging some of these rather pointless and redundant Bryce reaction threads into this one? 

I mean....it's a little messy at the moment. 

Seconded @LinvilleGorge this is silly to look at ‍

[SmokinwithWilly]

24 minutes ago, TN05 said:

They were not happy after a 450 yard passing game, why do you think they'd be happy now?

They're not happy when we win 30-0, because Bryce didn't throw for 400 yards.

They're not happy when we win on the last drive, because that means we were losing earlier (???).

They're not happy when Bryce completes 75% of passes, records 230+ total yards, 3 TDs, 0 turnovers and outduels the MVP favorite because we ran the ball a lot.

They will literally never be happy. They would be happier if we were 0-13.

We're not happy because we're facing having to pick up a 5th year option or an extension and still have NO IDEA who Bryce is as a QB. He has great moments, but he has yet to put together back to back great games. We haven't had back to back winning seasons in 30 years, so asking for back to back franchise QB game performances from your QB isn't a whole hell of a lot to ask for. 

[CRA]

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

We're not happy because we're facing having to pick up a 5th year option or an extension and still have NO IDEA who Bryce is as a QB. He has great moments, but he has yet to put together back to back great games. We haven't had back to back winning seasons in 30 years, so asking for back to back franchise QB game performances from your QB isn't a whole hell of a lot to ask for. 

PJ Walker had great moments.  Great moments can be found for nickel and half eaten bag of potato chips. 

[BIGH2001]

50 minutes ago, TN05 said:

They were not happy after a 450 yard passing game, why do you think they'd be happy now?

They're not happy when we win 30-0, because Bryce didn't throw for 400 yards.

They're not happy when we win on the last drive, because that means we were losing earlier (???).

They're not happy when Bryce completes 75% of passes, records 230+ total yards, 3 TDs, 0 turnovers and outduels the MVP favorite because we ran the ball a lot.

They will literally never be happy. They would be happier if we were 0-13.

Seriously. My god enjoy the win over a legitimate Super Bowl contender and just shut the fug up. You don’t always have to try to be the smartest person in the room. As far as I know no one on this board has ever sniffed an NFL front office m.

[SCO96]

26 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

We're not happy because we're facing having to pick up a 5th year option or an extension and still have NO IDEA who Bryce is as a QB. He has great moments, but he has yet to put together back to back great games. We haven't had back to back winning seasons in 30 years, so asking for back to back franchise QB game performances from your QB isn't a whole hell of a lot to ask for. 

The Saints game is what really concerned me. We were playing a 1-8 at home and they were starting a rookie QB. Bryce played one of the worst games I've seen him play. Those type of performances (and the one in SF last Monday) are why most of us are not on board with extending him, or even picking up the 5th year option.

 

[SmokinwithWilly]

Just now, SCO96 said:

The Saints game is what really concerned me. We were playing a 1-8 at home and they were starting a rookie QB. Bryce played one of the worst games I've seen him play. Those type of performances (and the one in SF last Monday) are why most of us are not on board with extending him, or even picking up the 5th year option.

 

If we weren't facing the 5th year option this off season I would be able to enjoy this more from a fan's perspective. I don't trust the FO, and by that I mainly mean Dave and Nicole, to make the right move for this organization moving forward. It's been 8 years of suckage and I don't want to get locked into another 5 because of a couple of feel good wins that end up being a mirage and not reality. And is that Bryce's fault? Not entirely. It's really just a history of Tepper and the FO doing really dumb things. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, SCO96 said:

Yes sir. And sometimes they'll even have a graph with a distribution of where the ball was thrown: to the left, to the right or over the middle. I feel that I've noticed a trend with Bryce in terms of how he attacks the field.

I want to know if the analytics back me up or if I'm just imaging things.

NFL Next Gen Stats

I have a spreadsheet I made of all the data for his career for everything up to the past 2-3 games. 

[kungfoodude]

52 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

Your chart confirms what I noticed yesterday. No real success passing the ball in the middle of the field. Everything is pretty much confined to the area outside the numbers and hashmarks. I didn't realize he only completed 2 passes that were 10 yards beyond the LOS until you mentioned it in an earlier post.

BTW, where did you get this chart?

 

 

Check out the Game Center under Stats and you will see an actual breakdown of the production for those zones.

[Jackson113.2]

[kungfoodude]

50 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Seconded @LinvilleGorge this is silly to look at ‍

It's the redundant threads that are a bit tiresome. If there is a real separate issue that should be discussed about Bryce, I have no issue with multiple threads but this is all like the exact same poo.

[DaveThePanther2008]

I've watched this highlight several times.  So many people want to criticize Young because he's doesn't throw down the field very much.  However, if you watch this highlight and focus on the ball placement, It's a perfect throw.  He leads Hubbard perfectly.  He hits him in stride.  He's full speed in a moment. 

If he throws it too far in front he probably doesn't catch it or loses his balance enough that he gets tackled.   Too far behind and he has to slow down a bit and doesn't get up to speed in time to score.

Bryce pinpoints a perfect throw, and Hubbard blows by everyone and scores.

It was a great play.

[PantherChris]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It's the redundant threads that are a bit tiresome. If there is a real separate issue that should be discussed about Bryce, I have no issue with multiple threads but this is all like the exact same poo.

100% different titles same silly arguments just merge them all sticky it abd delete any new ones that aren't a wholly different topic

[TN05]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Bryce Young had the same amount of touchdowns as he did pass attempts that went at least 10 yards downfield.  3. 

I wasn't aware football games were decided by the number of passes that went 10 yards downfield.