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The quality stats USUALLY tell the story: Bryce outplayed Stafford today...and the Panthers won

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1 hour ago, joeyxfresco said:

This also the first offensive game all season where I felt we blended a lot of things that work for us into a complete game. Everyone ate their piece of the pie. Want more of this and less of the Falcons Bryce takeovers and Rico forced runs. 9ers game showed how one dimensional we can get with the script. This game showed adaptability and responding to whatever the defense throws at us. Loved every bit of it 

And both the offense and the defense stepped up despite the players who were out

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48 minutes ago, CRA said:

Bryce didn’t outplay Stafford.  Stafford was asked to be a NFL QB all game and mistakes were made.   Bryce was treated like a 3rd string QB the entire game…..and then on 4th down Canales frankly called 2 really dumb plays that worked out insanely well.  The exact calls people have said are why he shouldn’t be a NFL coach.  We have seen the need 2 yards and Bryce chucking it incomplete on repeat this year 

 

Stafford cost the Rams the game today. All of 3 of his turnovers were back breakers for LA and they lost the game. On the other hand Bryce has a couple of nice TD passes and made several critical completions that extended some drives and ultimately iced the game with the last completion to Coker. He also didn't make any major mistakes or turnovers that really hurt the team. In that sense he outplayed Stafford. If you swapped their stat-lines the Rams win this game.

That said, in no game situation would I ever take Young over Stafford. Watching Stafford zip those passes all over the field actually made envious during the game. I actually agreed with one of your posts under another thread. Bryce still hasn't proven he can effectively throw against a strong zone coverage. He seems to be most effective against one on one coverage...and even then its usually outside the numbers and not over the middle of the field. I have a hard time seeing him improving on this due to his height and subpar arm, but it would be nice if he could.

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