Cox&Lee on panthers playbook post game. Bryce vs Schough comments at min 19

[raleigh-panther]

we all know the  issues with this team

the franchise is still seriously flawed from self inflicted stupidity or owner impetuousness 

As a result they need

1. a new  defensive staff  and scheme plus improved personnel, really every where

2. a proven OC  refreshed oline (young and uninjured vs beat up veterans)  a threat at tight end 

3. QB.  Not being able, or willing, to run a qb sneak for less than yard in the nfl is not a good thing   Neither are the restrictions on routes and play calling because of his limitations 

I believe Bryce does the best he can  he is ions better than his first 2 years but i believe he is at his ceiling 

No point in continuing to blame him for the stupidity of Panthers’ front office.

unfortunately,  the mistake in drafting him isn't going to just go away   Too many holes to fill and too little money or draft picks available  for q long term fix 

4  a very inexperienced OC/HC 

they are what they are   As fans, we have to decide how much energy to give the franchise 

 

[csx]

These two do 180 reversals every week with the wins and losses. 

[raleigh-panther]

6 minutes ago, csx said:

These two do 180 reversals every week with the wins and losses. 

Don’t we all?   Lea has been very consistent in the criticisms of Evero and Young. He will, as will Cox, give credit when the coaching staff rises above expectations 

listening to Eugene Robinson, Szoki this morning

1 4th and inches.  Needed to be a quicker play, like a dive play or sneak vs having  Bryce turn a 180 to hand off.   It was 4th and inches   Or could bring in Andy for a sneak or the play    I absolutely know,  without any playbook knowledge, Canales never  considers that or practices that 

2  Eugene Robinson livid over lack of pressure calls by Evero and coverage calls and what did come, came too late 

I’ll tell you this, after the tongue lashing from Bowles, the Bucs will kick ass

i really am sick of Canales Mr Rogers demeanor 

 

[Silent Majority]

Everyon sees it except the huggers and egotist who need to feel superior despite being dead wrong.

[Waldo]

42 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

Don’t we all?   Lea has been very consistent in the criticisms of Evero and Young. He will, as will Cox, give credit when the coaching staff rises above expectations 

listening to Eugene Robinson, Szoki this morning

1 4th and inches.  Needed to be a quicker play, like a dive play or sneak vs having  Bryce turn a 180 to hand off.   It was 4th and inches   Or could bring in Andy for a sneak or the play    I absolutely know,  without any playbook knowledge, Canales never  considers that or practices that 

2  Eugene Robinson livid over lack of pressure calls by Evero and coverage calls and what did come, came too late 

I’ll tell you this, after the tongue lashing from Bowles, the Bucs will kick ass

i really am sick of Canales Mr Rogers demeanor 

 

Not all of us. Only the ones that like pain and disappointment 

Edited December 15, 2025 by Waldo

[Panthering]

56 minutes ago, csx said:

These two do 180 reversals every week with the wins and losses. 

How couldn't you? They deserve credit for some good wins and deserve tons of blame for bad losses. Inconsistencies are maddening.

[csx]

44 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

Don’t we all?   Lea has been very consistent in the criticisms of Evero and Young. He will, as will Cox, give credit when the coaching staff rises above expectations 

listening to Eugene Robinson, Szoki this morning

1 4th and inches.  Needed to be a quicker play, like a dive play or sneak vs having  Bryce turn a 180 to hand off.   It was 4th and inches   Or could bring in Andy for a sneak or the play    I absolutely know,  without any playbook knowledge, Canales never  considers that or practices that 

2  Eugene Robinson livid over lack of pressure calls by Evero and coverage calls and what did come, came too late 

I’ll tell you this, after the tongue lashing from Bowles, the Bucs will kick ass

i really am sick of Canales Mr Rogers demeanor 

 

No. Its like they target an audience who only listens once.

[csx]

3 minutes ago, Panthering said:

How couldn't you? They deserve credit for some good wins and deserve tons of blame for bad losses. Inconsistencies are maddening.

When we win one they act like we've turned a corner and are going on a run when we've been alternating every week for 2 months. 

 

Edited December 15, 2025 by csx

[raleigh-panther]

43 minutes ago, csx said:

When we win one they act like we've turned a corner and are going on a run when we've been alternating every week for 2 months. 

 

I watch them all the time

you cannot blame  anyone who gets excited over beating the cowboys. Packers. Rams

everyone who follows this team should be excited over those and why bother if you arent

They are rightfully critical of young and canales and evero

Frankly, they do not root for them to fail like some on here 

[45catfan]

I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face because y'all are not reading between the lines on these 11 GWDs.  Wow, that sounds amazing, 11 GWDs!!!  Sometimes stats need some context beyond the surface. The deeper dive is Bryce cannot put games away early enough to keep from these last minute victories.

This is completely unsustainable. It's either a blow out loss,  respectable loss, close loss or a nail-biting last minute win.  Bryce has exactly ONE, you know, a notch up form zero, comfortable wins. We all know it was that first Falcons game early this season.   

This man has 2-3 big boy throws a game and 2-3 NFL above average games a season at this rate.

Tell me how this is sustainable?  It isn't.

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face because y'all are not reading between the lines on these 11 GWDs.  Wow, that sounds amazing, 11 GWDs!!!  Sometimes stats need some context beyond the surface. The deeper dive is Bryce cannot put games away early enough to keep from these last minute victories.

This is completely unsustainable. It's either a blow out loss,  respectable loss, close loss or a nail-biting last minute win.  Bryce has exactly ONE, you know, a notch up form zero, comfortable wins. We all know it was that first Falcons game early this season.   

This man has 2-3 big boy throws a game and 2-3 NFL above average games a season at this rate.

Tell me how this is sustainable?  It isn't.

In our last 2 wins the offense had to put over 30 or more points (actually 24 against the Rams since we had a pick 6, but Bryce threw 3 TDs that game with 0 turnovers so I'm not blaming that on him).  I'm not sure that falls on the QB not putting away the other team.  The defense is easily exposed against decent offenses.  Just throw over the middle.

[fanpanther]

6 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face because y'all are not reading between the lines on these 11 GWDs.  Wow, that sounds amazing, 11 GWDs!!!  Sometimes stats need some context beyond the surface. The deeper dive is Bryce cannot put games away early enough to keep from these last minute victories.

This is completely unsustainable. It's either a blow out loss,  respectable loss, close loss or a nail-biting last minute win.  Bryce has exactly ONE, you know, a notch up form zero, comfortable wins. We all know it was that first Falcons game early this season.   

This man has 2-3 big boy throws a game and 2-3 NFL above average games a season at this rate.

Tell me how this is sustainable?  It isn't.

The video made a good point about this just when do you ever as a fan feel like bryce can be counted on.  Every week I tend to think ok how are the panthers gonna barely get a win by overcoming the Byoung limitations, and every week I see these qbs that are suppose to be worse than young look better than him.  Like honestly shough looked alot better than 3rd year young.  Its not suppose to be like that I hope they bring in someone else this team is a 3-5 win team that lucked into alot of wins this year with crazy good coaching, defense,  and running back play.

[cranky]

2 hours ago, csx said:

These two do 180 reversals every week with the wins and losses. 

Except with Bryce. Chris doesn't like him. Even when they do well, he finds faults with him. 

[Shotgun]

7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

   Just throw over the middle.

Why cant we do that?